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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Generally this is a pretty nice looking Frans Maas 44'. All stainless steel. Perhaps nice looking because it's floating about 10" deeper than the drawing shows. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2004/Frans-Maas-Decksalon-44-2959590#.WLxp-PKGOFU
  2. The weight study is my work taken from the model shown above. This forum won't let me post a spreadsheet but anyone is welcome to the full .xls file, it's posted on Boat Design I believe. When we started this study on Boat Design, someone anonymously sent me an unsigned hull lines drawing that was obviously done by a non-professional, but it was somewhat plausible. The three views did not match but hey. I also had the official Brent Swain 1988 drawing with the hull pattern dimensions. Using the lines drawing and working backward, I was able to create a hull that unfolded to match Brent's pattern. The deck and house come straight from the Swain drawing, the pilothouse is from one of the sail plans. Six years ago I offered to do an inclining on any Swain boat offered, that never happened and I'm not going to pursue it today. Though if someone is genuinely interested, I'll happily help them do an inclining of any boat. Even longer ago I did a rig design for the builder of a Swain hull. Idefix 1.pdf
  3. The curve is showing VCB of .61'(7.25" above waterline) and the weights show VCB of 5.58' so draft at that loading is right about 5'. This calculated VCG is typical, it's highly optimistic and inclining experiments always come in higher. Part of this is because rig weights are notoriously inaccurate.
  4. Leaving the house off will just eliminate that second sharp peak (around 65-85 degrees heel). Max RA would be around 45-50 degrees and AVS around 120...roughly.
  5. Swain 36 weights summary......
  6. Swain 36 stability curve.
  7. At least they're spelling my name right...... Stability model of Swain 36.
  8. Drawing by Sciarrelli, poor quality I know......
  9. Definitely has the potential to be admirable. I'd like to know more too! The design is by Carlo Sciarrelli, there are a few of these about, 16m on deck. There's one with a 3 sail unstayed schooner rig, another with an America style gaff schooner rig, and at least one of these staysail schooners. 50'+ schooners with outboard rudders and tiller are rare. While they are a very attractive idea, the sheer, with all curvature bunched at the foremast shrouds, is not so admirable.
  10. I just checked the initials on those drawings.....JV is Johan Valentijn and WAH is Bill Heacock who later partnered with Bob Harris in Harris & Heacock.
  11. S&S called the Sangermani ketch a "Motorsailer", she was their design #2237, done in 1975 for a Mr. Coal. A particularly uninspired effort. The drawings......
  12. The Challenge 67 was designed by David Thomas not Ed Dubois....my mistake.
  13. Two Global Challenge Race fleets, the 67' by David Thomas and the 72' by Rob Humphreys are round bottom steel boats. The 72' has about 18' of beam and displacement is about 84,000 lbs. Whether or not these are "performance" boats is arguable, they (did, the race is no more) race one-design.
  14. I would put Spencer at average quality, not top. They seem to be built about the same as a Cal or Columbia of the same era. A couple of weeks ago I was called over to the shipyard to look at the keel on a Spencer 31. The owner was concerned as he could wiggle the keel back and forth by hand. I sat inside and watched the boat's bottom flex as he pushed on it. The problem is no floors at all in the keel stub or bilge. Cal's are built this way too. They just molded a hollow glass stub, draped a couple of bronze flat-bars across the valley, taped the FB ends into the bilge, and ran two keel bolts up into those FB's to secure the outside ballast. The keel has been wiggling back and forth for 50 years and the glass has fatigued, eventually it will break off but it may take a lot more years.......
  15. the New World Long, skinny, and made of plywood.......