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  1. Mini Transat 2017

    I think the water makers will not work properly, once the boat start to plane. Paul
  2. il mostro attempting chi-mac speed run record

    Why so slow? I mean a 16 knot average after selecting a good weather windows shorter than 24 hours doesn't sound too impressive to me. Has Arete given this a try as well? What is special about that course? Sea state? Evil water gnomes or mermaids? Paul
  3. 2017 Australian Multihull Championships

    From Grainger Design's facebook page: Paul
  4. Plants on a boat

    nope, "15 knots" and "upwind against waves" were two distinct events. To reach 15 knots upwind, an investment in a set of carbon-epoxy-vacuum-infused flower vases might be needed. Paul
  5. I guess the cheeky monkey madness started out like this as well. :-) Good Luck. Paul
  6. Harken Reflex Top Down Furler Anyone using one?

    Hi Merit, I have had the Harken furler for some time now. I have no real comparison, but everything works very well. One or two pulls max, then it starts to furl at the top. Never had a backwrap or anything like that. Paul
  7. Show your boat sailing thread

    Beautiful boat in front overtaken by us in the fast lane. :-) Paul
  8. best 32-35 foot cruising cat

    Stiletto, as I mentioned, I still have boat-envy... Anything that gives sailing time ist welcome. I'm getting an extension for my sprayhood for next year as well because of the crappy, rainy weather in the last years. These summer holidays we used the heater nearly every night! Paul
  9. GRP Classic around 28-33'?

    Transporting a keel boat heavier than two point something tons means that you need a professional transport company (or your own truck and the right driver's license ). This means that any journey longer than a few kilometers costs a lot of money. Like 5000 to 8000 Euros from the baltic sea to the med one way for example. Makes no economic sense if the boat is "only" 40.000 Euros. In think extensive trailering and comfortable atlantic circle for four are mutually exclusive for the proposed budget. Paul
  10. best 32-35 foot cruising cat

    Just saw this current picture of Merlin on Facebook. The huge dodger kind of lessens the sleek look of a great looking boat for me. Paul PS: Edited, because I would still take the boat. :-)
  11. Plants on a boat

    On our last trip we alway had a little vase with an ever changing bouquet of flowers on the boat. The kids picked new ones on every landfall to replace the ones that had expired. Another thing to keep them busy. :-) Plus it looks nice, lightening up the heart of even the hardiest salt. Amazingly hardly any water was spilled, even at 15 knots boatspeed or going upwind against 6-7 bft and waves. Paul
  12. Sprint 750 Outboard Recommendations?

    I had the Tohatsu 6 SailPro on my old boat (Albin Express, 8m keel boat) . The SailPro comes with a bigger Prop more suited to sailboats and has real power in reverse as well. Nice, reliable engine. Paul
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    Also, have a look what others are sailing in the area. It's much more fun for the kids, if they can sail with/against each other. Steeper learning curve as well. Paul
  14. Chris White Atlantic 42/46 - Performance

    Thank you all for the insightul analysis, guys. As Wess described I am more concerned about the "feel" of the boat than about the actual average speed. I'm quite modest: If the same boat could give 180+ miles per day when loaded and tamed down for cruising, while still hitting mid to high teens when emptied and sailed with a bit of passion that would be fine with me. :-) I guess I will have to leave the virtual world and try to hitch a few rides on these boats. Outremers can be chartered in the med (even older designs, that might be interesting to buy like the 40/43), but I guess Atlantics will be a bit harder to find in my part of the world. Paul
  15. We are tentatively looking at fast cruising catamarans for a potential multi-year journey starting in 2019/2020. Currently we (me, wife, two small kids) sail a Farrier F-32RX, that is perfect for our 1-3 week tours through the baltic sea. Most of our daily trips are less than 5 hours, with a few longer legs inbetween, but usually not more than 24h on the helm. Sailing is fast and fun. But for the planned extended cruising with longer passages, I would like to have a bit more comfort, that means stuff like an oven to bake bread, a walk-in-shower, more space for the kids when they get bigger. I am willing to trade a bit of performance for that, but... not too much. On one hand I don't want to loose those "woooshh" moments, when the boat effortlessly goes from 10 to 18 knots in a small puff, on the other hand I would like to be able to switch gears and have a stable platform, where I can turn the auto-pilot on and safely sail-on at 10 knots while cooking/eating dinner in the salon. Might be impossible on one boat. :-) Chris White's Atlantic series appeals to me (forward-cockpit + inside-helm). The 42/46 are still quite expensive for an older catamaran, but financially might be within reach. What kind of performance can realistically be expected from such a boat? Some math makes it clear, that the cat will be slower and less nimble than the tri, with about half the sail-area per ton of boat-weight compared to our small boat. Most reports of these cats are very positive, but I read some less than stellar observations about the Atlantic 42 here http://www.boatsandlife.com/2011/07/cool-as-a-cat-amaran/ "Upwind: When the relative wind angle opened up, the boat really started to accelerate, but at the cost of the apparent wind speed excessively increasing, which loaded up the rig to a point of concern. When the boat was sailed too close to the wind, the speed dropped way off and the pitching action of the waves further depressed our forward momentum. As a result, the cat was difficult to steer in the groove. I mistakenly expected a quick and lively upwind boat." Is this just the interpretation of a mono-sailor, that is suprised that he cannot pinch upwind? Then again, the boatowner was on-board, so he could have corrected the wrong notion. These guys here http://www.ecosailingcharters.com/ have extensively blogged about their travels on an Atlantic 42 - and don't seem to be doing a lot of sailing. In most of the pictures from their blog, you can see the jib rolled up and/or the stack-pack closed. @Peccadillo: from this forum has "super-charged" his Atlantic 46 to achieve good performance in lighter winds. Similar mods can be found on a few 42s as well (e.g. here https://www.cruisingclub.org/pdfs/bws_catalyst.pdf) Maybe that is necessary to give better performance? @Wess: Have you sailed one of the smaller Atlantics? How does it compare to your current boat (ignoring for a second, that this is somehow comparing apples and oranges)? Paul