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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. RS 21 - Fugly or just a different genre

    So it is obvious the Aero is going not make even a scratch on the Dominant Laser - 1200 boats (Aero) compared to the Laser in the same time period ~ what's gone wrong with the Aero ?
  2. Sailors Powerboat

    Can go where any race yacht can go - Gurit engineered structure, 1500 kg lead ballast and 1400 kg water ballast capacity. 42' LOA 10' beam
  3. what's it for?

    The SB 3 could upgrade their options with a sail drive !
  4. justice

  5. justice

    Don't agree with your take on the photographs, trying to read evidence from the wake in this isolated situation is like reading tea leaves ! Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think the sail setting (trim) comes in the equation. : what I am saying is that the video evidence is not reliable given sea state (confused) and camera position in the two photographs.
  6. justice

    No t that it matters anymore : same painting with a different perspective : looking at the two photographs in isolation ( they don't agree with my take on the video material I have watched) I would conclude WO is sailing away and going higher ~ Commanche makes a fair mess of the water surface !
  7. justice

    Phew ~ I was thinking about hanging up my sea boots
  8. justice

    Jail time ....... for placing lives at risk ? Makes doing a 720 a no brainer !!!
  9. justice

    Still makes a DSQ look the right decision .... well why only a 60 minute penalty ? WO in hindsight ~ should have done a 720 as allowed under the Rules they were saying under to avoid the position of exposing their throat, as they had obviously stuck their neck out.
  10. justice

    By way of simple logic in # 1.) above : a port and starboard rule breach in the AC (as per last AC) should be in line with a penalty to preserve life ? Note : WO and C are crewed (primarily) by sailors of same calibre / experience. " Could have cost lives" ~ the intended AC monohulls will put close contact to the test - push the wrong button and see what happens !!
  11. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    Throwing around an IACC yacht ( at 25,000 kg + crew) would be a reference - the winged appendages (on IACC yacht) would help by approx 15 / 20 seconds per tack over WO appendage geometry ~ can't see more than 4 to 4.5 minutes as mentioned.
  12. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    Any takers on 4 ~ 4.5 minutes in conditions that were in play at the time ? From time of altercation between WO and C, WO was 5 minutes from next mark, C was 6 minutes.
  13. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    To have done the 720 was a brainer at the time ~ conditions that were to WO advantage over C. From a boat design perspective the narrow hull form appears to be the best all-rounder ~ comparing WO to C, I think the next AC will give rise to hull geometry that will filter down to Ocean racing yachts of the future.
  14. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    The positional data (assuming supplied ?) may have supported / confirmed the Jury conclusion - easy in hindsight to conclude the penalty turns was the way to deal with issue, as previously stated the brains-trust on WO has left me scratching my head in allowing the decision of a protest hearing come into the results equation.
  15. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    So therefore instead of taking 6 minutes to reach the next mark from time of altercation with WO, C could have sailed the same distance to next mark (from time of altercation) in 1 minute ? Noting the time taken by WO was 5 minutes (from time of altercation with C to next mark) ~ at the time the prevailing wind strength and direction was to WO favour. Perhaps I am as dense as the boys on the backend of WO, but I don't buy it cost C 5 minutes and swallow the highly subjective reasoning in sailing up the Derwent given the WO / C event out of the Heads.