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    Bradenton, FL
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  1. They used all of the good stuff, very pricey brand new. I bought mine in 1986 used for $3500 w/ trailer and Flasher. Had to strip mahogany and re varnish (my wife actually), but it looked great
  2. Boston Whaler 5.2 with cuddy. All the good gear (North, Harken), designed by C&C, 7' beam. Very sable, and sails great, and nice cockpit. Very easy to rig, and tows nice. I had one for 4 years on the Chesapeake. Good in light air, stable and safe if caught in squall
  3. Sold everything to sail the world...boat sunk on day 2

    Guess what folks? Some retired Dr. in St Pete just sold them a 1986 Cheoy Lee Pedrick 36 for $1. He wants them to fulfill their dream.I read it this AM in Tampa Bay Times. Their POS is still in the Pass, and should be cleared next week per Corps of Engineers. Just great, bigger boat and still little experience. I'll make sure to watch out for these "sailors" . Hope they leave the dog with someone. Couple whose dream boat sank gets a bigger, better boat for a buck.html
  4. Code 0 Furlers

    Finally got 'sprit installed. Talked to West Marine rigger about top downs, and he mention several boats using Harken. Did some research on it, and it looks like that's what I'm going with, plus 440pts from West Marine brings the price down
  5. Looking to race in Sarasota/St. Pete/Tampa

    Hey, I'm in Palmetto (Snead Island Boat Works). Frers 36 Always looking for crew. Just added 'sprit, and doing races in March-May, as well as beer can at Bradenton YC. Not intense, but we have fun. Sellicc1@gmail.com
  6. Sold everything to sail the world...boat sunk on day 2

    Just read the story in today's Tampa Bay Times. A sad tale, but after reading, my reaction was, "What could possibly go wrong?" Old boat, little experience, at night going through unfamiliar inlet. Hit something to cause keel to depart? 11411 Chart shows 10' through entrance and drawbridge, then 4' to ICW. Hindsight, Pass A Grille much easier, and no shoaling
  7. Code 0 Furlers

    Thanks all for the input. Looking at top downs that have a lock to avoid back furl. Selden is not on my list. Profurl, Karver, and Nautos are the ones I'm starting to compare.
  8. Code 0 Furlers

    Just in the planning stage. Yes, I want a top down furler for my UK Flasher. Trying to make things easy for me and crew. ATN tacker and Stasher don't cut it racing. I am talking to local UK loft to see what I need.
  9. Code 0 Furlers

    The front collar is almost (1-2") from forestay base, and when drilling, I measured approx 3/4 -1" core. With another 1/2" marine plywood and 1/4" backing plate (3"x5"), I'm guessing it's good up to 15kts beam reach to ddw. Anything over that, I don't mind losing, the race that is. I'll have pics next week, especially flying asym.
  10. Code 0 Furlers

    With approx 800-900sf (3rd owner), I'm thinking approx 3400-4000 lbs on the 'sprit. I plan to use asym on close reach/beam reach <10kts. We've sailed the asym with ATN Tacker to approx. 60 apparent with good results. I'm leaning towards Profurl Spinex.
  11. Code 0 Furlers

    I used 6061T Aluminum 6' long, with 3' in front of bow, 1/4" wall, with 3/8" eye bolt through both walls. I have Selden collars on 1 1/2" teak blocks, and through bolted 3/8' stainless below with 1/2" marine plywood 6"x8" and 5"x3"x1/4" stainless backing plate. The Rat used to have hydraulic babystay, so I positioned collars where the reinforced decking is (1" marine plywood, dry). I'm starting off flying asym in 5-10kts, but no more than 15. SAIL had an article a few years back where a engineer made one for his Tartan 31. My asym is 2x larger, so I doubled his sail load, and added 2000lbs. If it doesn't work, I'll have a nice sunroof over the v berth
  12. Code 0 Furlers

    I'm looking to add a Code 0 Furler to my 1982 Hinterhoeller F3 (Frers 36). Just installed a DIY retractible bowsprit. Some racing, some cruising. Going to be using UK Flasher approx 800-900sf (3rd owner, so not sure of SF). I have a Harken RF for 150 and 110, but leaning towards Profurler. Any others I should look at that are in Profurler price range?
  13. Show your boat sailing thread

    July 2017 on the Manatee River, Bradenton Yacht Club Thursday Night Beer Can Race. 1982 Frers 36 built by Hinterhoeller
  14. Crew is good, but not highly skilled. I'm comfortable with extra bodies if needed, and we've had those times
  15. After getting a quote on a Selden Bowsprit for my Frers 36 of $961 (w/o sheets or tack line), I'm building my own. 6' of 6061T with 1/4" wall diameter. I did buy mounts from Selden, bow roller not big enough, and canted to port. Previous owner removed babystay from foredeck, so plenty of room. Found an article in SAIL that had a 'sprit on Tartan 31. Dude was an engineer, so he had already calculated load (1782lbs of pressure, asym was 482sf). I just doubled (mine is approx 900sf) and added 2000lbs. In theory, it should work. Tired of needing 8 crew for spin. I found a J105 racing video that showed crew of 5 in pretty heavy conditions flying aysm. So, what the hell, if it breaks (boat or pole) so be it. At least I tried. Will post photos when completed, under way, and any unfortunate results