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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. John Oliver did a good episode on that. He did it knowing he would face a lawsuit. http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/22/media/john-oliver-coal-king-murray-lawsuit/index.html
  2. Meanwhile, those Ford jobs that Trump saved from Mexico.... They are going to China instead. Mine was built in Detroit. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/20/533680458/ford-shifts-focus-again-car-will-be-imported-to-u-s-from-china-not-mexico
  3. One small edit to suggest. "Claiming that the climate model<s> are wrong...." Think of it as hurricane projections only more so. There is a wedge of probability. There are several wedges of probability, constantly being revised. Different groups look at different data. Some are meta-studies looking at everything from tree ring data or CO2 in ancient ice to establish a baseline. Steam hits upon my biggest problem with the Republican party. They are being very radical in their casual disregard of 97% of the experts. Is conservative yacht design a Brentboat origami without floors or bulkheads, that considers maintenance as an unnecessary expense interfering with cruising? Is conservative seamanship ignoring NOAA? Just eyeball the sky. Don't plot a course or plan for reciprocals. You don't need a compass if you have a GPS. Life jackets waste valuable space, so leave them on shore. Reefing points are for pansies. Don't replace the safety flares and hope the hand held works if a storm comes! Part of self reliance is planning for possible scenarios, taking corrective actions and making sure you don't need a bailout. Republicans rely on FEMA and ignore reality.
  4. What I've seen of the EU from my brother's wedding was my generation (X) completely taking advantage of it. Virtually nobody was both married to somebody form their country of birth and living in that same country. I don't have insight to how that translates across economic groups in Europe, the guests of that generation would translate to upper middle class in the states. I get the impression that the working poor also take advantage of it, but are freaking out the geezers.
  5. I'm actually optimistic for the youth, sometimes. Its kind of cool to see multiracial groups of teenagers wandering down the street, an opportunity Dabs never had. The smarter millennials know they don't have it as good as Grandpa. They may have graduated during the crash, and know there is no guarantee of anything. Their job may go to China tomorrow, or be replaced by a robot Christmas Eve. Dad was downsized at least once while they were growing up. Not ALL millennials are entitled lazy underachievers. Just as this group is connected despite geography, millennials do the same thing with online gaming. Even the most insular Indiana white guy will have contact with others from around the world, and realize the Pence Universe is too limiting. What is the Democratic vision? Big tent party, but instead of a big party inside that tent its a bunch of small groups ignoring each other.
  6. https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/129885/why-does-increasing-the-sample-size-lower-the-variance Here is a partial answer to your hang up on sig figs of thermometers vs ability to measure change. I regret I'm not the person to give a short course in statistics. They give me a headache. A buddy did his PhD in this area, he'd just laugh at me trying to understand years of study in an afternoon. Short version is many imprecise measurements increase the power of any experiment to identify small change. Data points are each data station each time a measurement is taken.
  7. Another good example would be Appalachian valleys separated by hills. Two towns may be 10 miles apart by air but two hours by truck. I don't think many county lines crossed the center of a valley. I'd add that county lines are generally boring and utilitarian. State and Federal districts for Congress are much more puzzling.
  8. I'd add that in a tiny 18th century town making most every position elected by anonymous ballet was better then a job committee, which would have created rifts in the social fabric of a closed small communities. Sheriff wasn't a professional position, more a 'honest guy with some backbone' kind of job. So coroner, judge, sheriff, dog catcher, treasurer, virtually everything is elected in many areas even though the position would be better served by a trained career individual. There is no push to change this, partially because in the rural positions I'm familiar with every position is manned by a Republican. If it was a career job a Democrat might be allowed in by mistake. There are a few. Politicians create committees to determine how elections are run, where and when voting occurs, what voting machines are allowed, etc. Redistricting was done by committee by the state legislator, which the Republicans made it their priority to own in many states half a generation ago. The result of their planning is they draw the maps, make sure their guys get elected, their judges determine that it is legal, and their politicians get reelected to continue the cycle. There will be no midterm swing. When the Republicans supervised the economic crash they only lost a few figurehead positions. As Bush proved, the affect on Congress and state office holders was minimal. Abortion and images of sexual predators in drag prowling around your daughter's bathroom will keep many sexually repressed religious Americans from voting Democrat. Nothing, not even foreign intervention, will be allowed to stain the Republican success. The problem the Republicans face is that they have been too successful in their political machinery. They do a great job making bad laws sound patriotic. They do a great job in controlling every aspect of government. They mistake power for consensus. The white majority is being out-reproduced and eliminating immigration and birth control for rural white people won't solve that. Eliminating health care for rural people won't make friends. Clearly Republicans are on the losing side of climate change. Income inequality isn't improved by trickle down. I think the Republican machine will triumph in 2018, maybe again in 2020. Even if Dems win President in 2020, Republicans control every other aspect of government so nothing will change. Eventually more young open minded people will forget to be blinded by race. Eventually the white stubborn stupid senile demographic will become less relevant. Hopefully this happens before pressure builds too much. The Trump voter is a fickle creature. He has been trained to trust rich white people more then his minority neighbors. But even he can learn. He may not vote democrat, unless they are willing to become gun loving populists and abortion is safely illegal. He has guns. If the two groups discover they have common ground, the result would be violent and messy. Most revolutions aren't economic successes.
  9. We have a long tradition of making most government functions elected. It served us well in the pioneer days where we could simply remove a judge or sheriff or whatever that seemed out of touch or had power go to his head. Since then our Supreme Court has determined that money = speech = power, and politics has drifted to this must win at all costs, party before people philosophy. A one party government is very reluctant to give up any power.
  10. http://climatechangeauthority.gov.au/ Not what you asked for, but I'm sure a caring expert in all things climate as yourself will volunteer to help these poor folks, since they putting their own economy in danger by mistaking a lab accuracy issue for reality. http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/#tabs=Tracker&tracker=timeseries I have a report to read, but you might find something of interest here. Again, these are AUstralian government employees, therefore automatically incompetent and in need of your expertise. Before you dismiss it, ACORN is Aus Climate Observation something something, and not a liberal PAC of some sort. Please copy us on all your correspondence to Australia, so we can learn with them. http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/acorn-sat/index.shtml#tabs=Expert-review&-network= The government dweebs did seek some outside counsel, perhaps you will be able to explain to them why they went to the wrong experts. You represent the Republican party well in this, but don't you feel like the stewardess on the crashing plane walking up and down the aisle briefing passengers on delays in connecting flights, reassuring them that the second wing was redundant, and explaining that the altimeter is notoriously inaccurate when the plane is falling faster then the dial can spin therefore it shouldn't be believed.
  11. Which way? Do you mean toward the freighter as the bulb 'kicked her feet out from under her' rolling the superstructure toward the bow of the freighter? By the photo the freighter bulb was visible below the waterline, she probably was not at the published draft of 12 m. Any guesses on the depth of the bulb? The destroyer had a draft of about 9 m. Would the hit have rolled the bridge toward the freighter? If the bulb hit close to 90' I think it would have lifted and pushed (as well as crushing and tearing) the destroyer without much roll. This would have been in addition to any pivoting forces due to the location of contact along the length of the destroyer. My guess is more of an angle, dissipating some force and saving the Fitzgerald from being cleaved. A picture of the Fitzgerald in drydock 2006. This is the closest I could find to her hull shape. The bulb would ride under this rounded hull, don't you think?
  12. The 'armor' was demonstrated by the affected compartments. Berths and non flammable storage outside, magazines deeper. As much as possible in a narrow fast ship, they put the most critical stuff deeper so small weapons wouldn't penetrate, or build in redundancy. In theory there wouldn't be many men asleep if missiles were flying. They know a destroyer cannot survive a major hit any more then it could in the world wars. The navy didn't realize ramming was still a danger.
  13. Elections have consequences, But they aren't an example of the will of the majority triumphing, like I was once taught in civics. They are a means of consolidating power and assuring the majority can be controlled when they get in the way. Gerrymandering, closing polling stations, increasing the regulations and ID needed to vote, or minimizing absentee or early voting so only old white retired people and white trash on disability have time to vote are common examples. They are the more subtle replacement for preventing Southern blacks from registering since those heavy handed methods resulted in unrest.
  14. For those that think dealing with climate change is too expensive and might hurt the economy, http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/20/533662790/its-too-hot-for-some-planes-to-fly-in-phoenix Phoenix had to cancel flights for hours because it was too hot for the smaller jets to fly. Boeing had 6 degrees to spare. A portent.