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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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  1. "Elitism"

    Yacht Club is an unfortunate name for a group of people who like boats. Membership in a Yacht Club does not have to be expensive, especially when compared to the costs of other social or sports efforts, in fact, it is the cheapest way to have a place to keep your boat. Not a fun enough place would be a valid criticism of lots of clubs but I disagree that the cost is a significant barrier.
  2. How much does areo drag matter?

    I happen to be trying to race a 323 and have thought long about this issue. My current solution is to fold the dodger down forward which causes another problem by making the traveler very hard to operate. Next year I thought I would remove the vertical panels from the dodger leaving only the roof panel along with the bimini which only have horizontal elements now. Thoughts? I am also removing unnecessary weight (causing another kind of drag with my wife) and working on my tactics! Dan
  3. Sail: how much is shape and how much is material?

    Thanks for all the input Everybody, I think I have settled on a 3Di Nordac sail. They are going to measure the boat to get every last square inch out of the jib so I am going to take a chance. I know that I will kick myself if I cheap out now and don't feel I have given myself the best chance of success within the limitations I have set. Dan
  4. Sail: how much is shape and how much is material?

    Jib is sheeted inside shrouds so this is max size. Good news is that there is less abuse of the sail during tacks!
  5. Sail: how much is shape and how much is material?

    Joe, In the world of jibs, how much does the shape vary from big name sail builder to another? For example, I am comparing Neil Pryde dacron to North 3Di.
  6. Sail: how much is shape and how much is material?

    The 3Di quote includes 3 short vertical battens which I have never had in a jib before. Quote is 1/3 higher for a raw 3Di black 760 fabric over 3Di Nordac. Thoughts on either or both above?
  7. Sail: how much is shape and how much is material?

    B323 is the boat, 116% jib is what I want. Light airs are prevalent, and I am one to sail in heavier breezes, but I am pretty good to my sails. Club racing is the reason to do this as I can achieve hull speed with the 10 year old dacron sails but I am suffering when competing in our club races. I know my tactics are the principle reason for our performance and I am working concurrently to fix them but I want faster sails too. I learned with hank on sails and loved the roachy main on my last two boats but now I have a wife who loves to sail and furlers make that happen easily. Sounds to me like the consensus above is to buy some better sails if I want to be faster longer term. Dan
  8. Looking to buy a new jib for club racing and struggling to understand this question. I get the fact that the shape is a huge problem when the sail is stretched, and I get that most of the high tech fabrics are less likely to stretch, but if not stretched, are they all pretty much the same in terms of speed? Sorry for the run-on sentence! Dan