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  1. The big swinging dick problem

    Sure - if you have bland taste buds. It's the dark chokkie Tim Tams or none around here.... FKT
  2. Have Torqueedo Outboards Come of Age Yet

    This. People far more skilled in building boat stuff than Dylan have tried this and failed. I actually can't see a lot of space on that hull to fit outboards anyway, not without some engineering to deal with the rudder issue. Also if only running on one engine at a draw of 25A/hour, you'll need 300W of solar at optimum to replace that in the same amount of time - ie 1 hour running equals 1 hour to recharge. The long days are not really that relevant - we have long days here in summer (not as long) and the solar gain in the early periods is bugger-all unless you align the panels to the sun, in which case it's a fraction more than bugger-all. The man making the 'Cruising the Cut' vlogs on YouTube has some figures on solar gain in England, it's not great and he has a *lot* more cabin top area to play with. I think a 250 amp 12V panel takes up about 1.2m x 0.5m of space. Probably need 4 of them. IMO it'd make far more sense to couple a 5HP 240V 3 phase motor to the existing prop shaft, hook it to a variable frequency drive and a big inverter. At least all that stuff would be out of the weather and driving a prop set well down in the water. I still wouldn't do it myself though because the energy density of current batteries sucks and so does the recharge time (ignoring lithium batteries) plus the need for a generator to actually recharge in a realistic time frame. FKT
  3. Have Torqueedo Outboards Come of Age Yet

    How do you get over 24 hours? I make it 10 hours maximum, worst case 5. Per motor. If you need to run both motors at full stick to get out of trouble, you've got 100A draw from a usable capacity of 240AH so 2.5 hours. The only way you can run that 480AH of battery close to dead flat and not kill them stone dead very quickly is to use lithium batteries. Now work out the cost of the batteries, 2 electric engines and the sophisticated charging system needed to keep those batteries in good condition and see what it adds up to. And even then you still only get 24 hours on a single engine. Did you ever bother to read the battery threads here? If so, it sure isn't obvious. My friend's 40HP Nanni diesel pushing a 15 tonne sailboat burns 1.5 litres/hour in a dead calm and 4 litres/hour in a seaway so 24 hours motoring burns 36 litres of diesel and they can keep that up for 10 days if necessary. A 30HP diesel in one of these Fishers might burn 2-3 litres/hour indefinitely and produce far more thrust, a lot lower in the water column where it's useful, and with a protected engine. But by all means ignore all the engineering advice you're getting. Some people simply have to learn from personal experience. FKT
  4. Have Torqueedo Outboards Come of Age Yet

    What's the current draw of the motors at full stick? You've got a theoretical 480 AH of current available, in practice half of that if you don't want the batteries to die an early death. Divide A into B and there's your best case answer. FKT
  5. Have Torqueedo Outboards Come of Age Yet

    I just looked at the stern of that thing. Just *where* is it going to be possible to fit *3* outboards and still have a functional rudder? Not to mention that it's going to take some serious work to do it properly, by a man who states that he hates 'fettling' boats. Far less work to either fix the existing engine or fit a new one. FKT
  6. Have Torqueedo Outboards Come of Age Yet

    Point 1 - did you ever do risk analysis? Likelihood of event and consequence of occurrence in a matrix - low likelihood, high consequence means you had better address that situation before it happens. That's exactly what being caught on a lee shore with no effective means of propulsion is. If it does happen, there goes your boat - as Bill Tilman could attest, were he still alive. Why not leave out the bilge pumps? After all with modern f/g and metal hulls a leak is quite unlikely..... The 6HP shoved the Centaur along in what wind & sea state? If it was in a flat calm, big deal. That's a convenience not a necessity. FKT
  7. Have Torqueedo Outboards Come of Age Yet

    Salt water & electrical motors exposed to the elements in a seaway when you really need them to keep working - what could *possibly* go wrong...... does Torqueedo rate these things for submerged operation? FWIW I used to manage a marine science support/logistics group. We employed more electronics techs & engineers than we did mechanical and gear techs because the equipment failed far more frequently - and our budget ran into 7 figures annually so we could buy the best we could find. If the boat is cheap enough 6K sounds reasonable. Bit on the expensive side here - what sort of engine & how many HP is that? I could buy a 30HP Nanni diesel for around $12K AUD I think. FKT
  8. Have Torqueedo Outboards Come of Age Yet

    Assuming you can keep the props in the water when the boat is bouncing up & down - which I doubt. Assuming the engines keep working when they're being dunked in salt water every 30 seconds - which I doubt. Pete Hill tried this on BADGER down in the Falklands. After numerous failures, he installed an inboard diesel. FKT
  9. Have Torqueedo Outboards Come of Age Yet

    This. Or fit another one. It's generally the labour cost that makes doing stuff like re-powering a boat outrageously expensive. FKT
  10. Pachyderm disaster (poll)

    Never tried it - there weren't any AFAIK where I used to live in Arizona. Probably taste better than Skippy though. Had 5 of them on the lawn last night but I prefer to buy my meat from the local butcher. FKT
  11. Pachyderm disaster (poll)

    So - as the American bison breed back up, you'll support the removal of fences and the return of the plains country to grazing, then? Thought not. FKT
  12. Pachyderm disaster (poll)

    That part I agree with. It may be necessary to shoot something in certain circumstances but there's no need to encourage it. Trophy hunters generally want to kill the biggest/best animal which over time doesn't necessarily do the species all that much good. African elephant tusks are a fraction of the size that were common in the 1800s due to selective killing for ivory. The bee story is a great one. Non-lethal control. FKT
  13. Pachyderm disaster (poll)

    How so? FKT
  14. Pachyderm disaster (poll)

    You just *might* change your mind if you were a subsistence farmer and those 'gentle giants' just ate & trampled all your crop that you needed to feed your family...... FKT
  15. Pachyderm disaster (poll)

    Hey - I'm supporting a large and healthy population of wallabies, kangaroos, rabbits and other little furry/feathered things on my lawn..... the neighbours waste a ton of time watering, fertilising and mowing theirs, I let the wildlife do all that for me. I never understood the mindset of trophy hunters buy hey, as long as they're going to pay big bux and be supervised so they don't shoot up the district, no problem. As people have said, competition for resources (and bush meat in Africa) is going to see those animals extinct if they're not worth money. FKT