Twisted Shackle

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  1. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    Hey scooter why are you asking me personal info? You planing on stalking me like you did that JBK guy. You plan on lying about this time also.
  2. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    Scooter I realize that you want to hold your criminals out to be the biggest bad asses and the most violent and frankly the conversation has grown tiresome. However I will give you, like most things in Australia, you have the most stupid criminals. ,http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11718591
  3. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    I'm sorry TS - that's just not true. Sorry it is true. There is no doubt in my mind people regardless of race at lower income levels commit more crime. However regardless of income level blacks commit more crime. Please see pages 11 & 12. http://egov.ufsc.br/portal/sites/default/files/anexos/33027-41458-1-PB.pdf
  4. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    You been proven wrong time and time again in this conversation. The black and Latino community in American are more violent then whites regardless of income level. That's what the numbers say and you have yet to disprove it. You say your poor are just as violent as as our poor black and Latino and the crime rate shows it. Then you say: However our's don't kill each at the rate yours does. Makes my point for me. Then you start with racism calling. You are just a whinny little bitch when you back up your argument. You are the Troll everyone here says you are. These are your works dickhead " As our crime stats show, we have just as much violent crime as you do - the criminals just don't end up shooting their victims and, as a result, they don't die from the criminal acts anywhere near as often. " So if our poor criminals are shooting people more often doesn't that make them more violent.?
  5. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    Not what I said was it, scooter. But don't pass up the opportunity to twist words so you can try to make someone out a racist. Let's review this one more time so even you can get it straight. Blacks and Latino's are responsible for more then 70% of our murders. It is easy to see that our minorities kill more people than the entire ethic make up of your country combined. Nothing racist about it, asshole. In order to have a equal comparison of the two countries let's use the murder rate caused by whites and Asians which is 26% of our total and closely matches your ethic make up. You have said the US homicide rate is 3.5 per 100,000, again this your number. Using the same ethic make up as yours and applying it to our murder rate (3.5 x 26%) is a murder rate of .91. In your post #128 you say your murder rate is .93. That"s apples to apples, dickhead. In a fair comparison using same ethic make up of people we have the same murder rate as yours without a gun ban. Imagine that, same people same rate. Boggles the mind doesn't scooter. Sorry, "scooter", but you are trying to cherry-pick murder rate based on ethnicity. That is, by definition, a racist differentiation. I'm not trying to make you out to be a racist - I'm pointing out that your argument is based on racist foundations. If no ethnicity is superior or inferior when it comes to wanting to kill their fellow man, there is no need to split them up by ethnicity. That your argument requires you to do so makes it racist. Like it or not, Shackle, race doesn't make people more or less likely to commit violent crime. Their income level does. Their lack of education does. Their lack of prospects do. And living in areas where many others like this dwell does too. Guess what? We got that down here too. Unless you are going to state that a person is more civil & less prone to violent crime simply because they are white, your current line of argument has no merit. Just like the others you've tried. If you are saying that, you are by definition 'racist'. Take your pick. Bless your little heart, scooter. When you get out of your teens and grow up someday you will come to realize some groups are just more violent then others. In round numbers in the US we have 18 million poor whites and we also have 18 million poor blacks and Latino's. Whites commit 23% of our murders. Blacks and Latino's commit over 70% of our murders. Poor whites don't kill at the same rate as poor blacks and Latino's. The numbers are color blind. Scooter you are going to have to find a different reason than poverty because the numbers don't agree with you.
  6. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    Not what I said was it, scooter. But don't pass up the opportunity to twist words so you can try to make someone out a racist. Let's review this one more time so even you can get it straight. Blacks and Latino's are responsible for more then 70% of our murders. It is easy to see that our minorities kill more people than the entire ethic make up of your country combined. Nothing racist about it, asshole. In order to have a equal comparison of the two countries let's use the murder rate caused by whites and Asians which is 26% of our total and closely matches your ethic make up. You have said the US homicide rate is 3.5 per 100,000, again this your number. Using the same ethic make up as yours and applying it to our murder rate (3.5 x 26%) is a murder rate of .91. In your post #128 you say your murder rate is .93. That"s apples to apples, dickhead. In a fair comparison using same ethic make up of people we have the same murder rate as yours without a gun ban. Imagine that, same people same rate. Boggles the mind doesn't scooter.
  7. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    Scooter my post was not racist, just pointing out the facts.
  8. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    Hey twisted, I'm on your side on this issue.... but you keep saying "kiwi" when you're referring to AUS. "Kiwi" is New Zealand. You've done this several times now, so it wasn't a typo like I originally thought. Just trying to help you out. Now, if you want to insult aussies - might I suggest something like "kangaroo fuckers" or "pusstrailians". You're welcome Thanks:-)
  9. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    "You never got as low as we did. I'm not ignorant of your methods and their relative success. I know the homicide rate in the US, I know ours. Yours is vastly worse off. Pretending that you're the only country with gangs & drug problems might help solve your butt-hurt when you're all by your lonesome, but out here in the real world - it's just another lame excuse. Gangs, drugs, & the crime that comes from them are inherent in every country with a poor population. We have them too. Admittedly, we have less poor than you do, but that's a completely different discussion " Scooter there you go again being dishonest. The ethic profile of Australia is: Ethnic groups white 92%, Asian 7%, aboriginal and other 1% So tell me about the Mexican drug gangs you are having a problem with or about the black gangbangers doing drive by shootings in Sidney. Lets see you have a population of 23 million. Blacks make up 13% and Illegal aliens make up 3% of our population. Until you take in 2.9 million intercity blacks and 600,000 Mexican illegals this is a apples and oranges debate. Until you seen Watts or Harlem first hand you have no Idea. But go ahead and tell me if you had 3.5 million of the type of people described above how your homicide rate would stay the same.
  10. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    Rosie? Never claimed that. Better than in the US? Clearly. Again, our homicide is far lower than yours, as is our gun crime. When we get to mass shootings, there simply isn't a comparison. Crawl back under your rock, Shackle, you lost this one. You brought up the comparison between our two nations and, at least when it comes to gun crime & homicide, that was a fucking stupid move. What we see as an "unprecedented wave" of gun crime in Melbourne is not even an average Wednesday in some of your major cities. You fucked up. The only "winning" move in the comparison between our two nations is to whine about freedoms and chuck in the occasional "Fuck you, Second Amendment". When it comes to crime, you're not doing better than us. When it comes to gun crime, you're way ahead. Then when it gets into homicide & mass shootings, the comparison becomes laughable. Do us all a favour and don't try that again. Public spankings might be your thing, but it's not everyone's cup of tea. A little hostile aren't we scooter. Did your mom lock you back in the basement again with the hand me down commodore computer? You know as well I do that there is a debate in your country that your gun confiscation did little if anything to lower your murder rate. Your murder rate dropped more between 1990 and 1996 when you passed the law than it has afterward. And over the last year or so your numbers are creeping back up. The Australian law would be blatantly unconstitutional in American. What you seem not to understand is your view of our gun problem is from a socialist viewpoint The good of all out weighs individual rights. To you every gun owner is potential murderer. I am surprised they sell matches in kiwi land to light their barbie. After all using your logic who ever lit the grill is a potential arsonist that you must protect yourself from. To expect that our gun deaths should somehow fall to match your's is both a testament to your ignorance of the problem and unrealistic. You don't have a population that only makes up 13% of the total that commits 60% of the homicides. You don't have south of the border drug gangs shooting it out in sanctuary cites over turf wars. Those two combined account for 75% of our homicides +/-. What you are also ignorant of is we know how to cut homicide rate without bans and have has great success doing so. In 1990 NYC had 2500 homicides. From the mid 90's NYC was govern by republicans for the next 20 years and brought the count down to below 350. Stop and frisk was answer. The current mayor ran on a promise to end stop and frisk to pander to the minority vote.. As you can guess the numbers are ticking back up. In America we get the homicide rate we vote for. We don't need to discuss will criminals turn in their guns do we? In closing I must say I can't remember when I have so enjoyed a conversation with a defensive fucktard as much as I have enjoyed this one.
  11. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    Tell us again how rossie everything is down under. http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/new-national-gun-amnesty-to-be-announced-20160913-grfigm.html
  12. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    Interesting. For that logic to work, one must assume that gun ownership has a direct linear correlation with homicide. I don't believe that nor have I seen evidence that is the case. Good to know. then there is no need for gun bans then as the number of guns does not have a correlation with homicide as you say. Incorrect. I said there wasn't a direct linear correlation. I still believe strict regulation & restrictions on firearms are why we have far less homicides and mass shootings than you do. The stats don't beat that view up like they do yours either. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth.
  13. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    Interesting. For that logic to work, one must assume that gun ownership has a direct linear correlation with homicide. I don't believe that nor have I seen evidence that is the case. Good to know. then there is no need for gun bans then as the number of guns does not have a correlation with homicide as you say.
  14. Twisted Shackle

    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    Are you sure you want to do that? Jeff tends to have a little pink fit whenever the subject comes up and the idea of a yank bringing it up (again) might just do his head in. Homicide Rate Aus: 1.1 Homicide Rate US: 4.5 The difference between shooting deaths is even more stark and you really don't want me to compare incidents of mass shooting. Our house is doing pretty well, thanks for asking. Especially in comparison to yours. Let us know when your murder rate reaches only double what we have down here. Or you get a handle on the mass shootings thing. Now, are you going to accuse me of bringing up this subject too? What with your off-base attempts to blame me for the M16 craps others are arguing about, you might want to limit your losses... or you could hold tight for consistency's sake and just be wrong about everything you throw at me. Either works for me. considering we have over 100 guns per 100 people and Australia has 21.1 per 100. Our homicide rate should be 5 times the rate of yours if we would show the same restraint as you kiwis. Why are you avoiding gun crime rates?
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    Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

    another testament on how well Australian gun control works. http://www.theage.com.au/interactive/2016/gun-city/day1