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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. So Rudey or whoever of you who know (or pretend that that you do) about these things do they have to have humans on the grinders/cycles. Power to weight chimps excel humans don't they? but serially Why do they head up before finishing? I can't figure out why. They don't when it's a super close finish of course. Seems to be an adequate amount of landing strip. Maybe to wash off speed before looping up to park after finishing to reduce loads? But seems unlikely considering they seem to hoon about and chuck'em around willy nilly. It amazes me with the 45s and 50s and even more so in SF in 2013 how reliable they've made these things. Like many AC boats of the past maybe they'll make surprisingly sturdy and popular tourist charter boats. Imagine! But back to the question of heading up before the finish- what say you? Stephen
  2. If you look closely on OR you can see there's a loose nut on the steering wheel. Get rid of that nut, put DB on the wheel, NO on tactics and stop dumping the boat in the water. Voila! Comeback 2017.
  3. Rebuilt 30' trimaran on its first outing rounds the leeward mark and comes onto the first beat. Guest helmsman "NO HELM!!! NO HELM!!! Me, owner and rebuilder, looking back and seeing the broken rudder blade floating away: "That's because there's no rudder."
  4. Rebuilt 30' trimaran on its first outing rounds the leeward mark and comes onto the first beat. Guest helmsman "NO HELM!!! NO HELM!!! Me, owner and rebuilder, looking back and seeing the broken rudder blade floating away: "That's because there's no rudder."
  5. Be interesting to find out how and why the hull got so flooded. And of course, it goes without saying, although I will anyway, that's really impressive stuff from the rescue chopper crew. Mind blowing. Cat crew didn't even get their socks wet! What a relief to know that sort of help is at hand when the pooh hits fan. And for what ever reasons, it surely had.
  6. As told to me by an insurance company, it's much easier for them when boats just simply sink to the bottom. No salvage, no towing, no repairs. Less work. Write a cheque, next! Non sinking multis might be safer but insurance don't like 'em. Pains in the arse, apparently.
  7. Swamped in one hull, yes. But doesn't look anything like sunk to me. Just saying.
  8. Swamped in one hull, yes. But doesn't look anything like sunk to me. Just saying.
  9. Tough conditions for electrics. Having exactly the same issue. I'm no expert but my thoughts were if you have an "alarmed sniffer why bother with the cut off solenoid?". Just turn the gas off at the bottle until the flame dies. But in reality, am I and everyone else on board gonna do that 100% reliably after each cuppa tea, each meal, each shower? Not if my slackness is any indication So then I thought, in an emergency, say, if one gets called away from earshot of the alarm, the flame snuffs out, the gas continues. Come back, relight- boom. Sigh, my conclusion on whether to reinstate the solenoid: extra expense- yes, but safety first especially with gas- yes. Camping stove with a back up cannister or two (the so called omelet cooker), on standby if all else fails- yes. Good luck.
  10. Before JS shuffles back to his lonely park bench with his bottle of cheap booze mumbling and grumbling his misinformed, largely incoherent, negative, cynical and snide tirades I should point out: When I searched in the cruising forums on SA for a topic on the La Vagabonde videos, oddly enough the 'room' "Girl with patreon account goes sailing in hot place" wasn't an obvious place to look- if that's the room that your ranting was referring to. As it turned out, had I looked in that thread I still wouldn't have found any or practically any discussion specifically on LV except very briefly in passing. Eg. The first page of that thread doesn't have any discussion on LV at all so despite "being dumb as batshit" I don't think I was unjustified to start a discussion specifically on LV for those many thousands who are into it. And for those who aren't, such as yourself apparently, despite, ironically, you posting replies on it, the topic is clearly named so that you can overlook it and pass on by. Simples. Also, if by troll, you mean someone who appreciates watching videos of two gutsy young interesting attractive people go in search of adventure on aboard a small sailing boat with virtually no initial experience to far flung places?- guilty. Appreciate that they fling themselves quite courageously at the mercy of unknowns and unpredictable factors such as weather and human nature and come across as quite unaffected and unpretensiously?- guilty. Appreciate they are having a crack where many people can't or don't make those dreams happen?. Guilty. Appreciate they make and share their videos free of charge to us, probably knowing there are (only a few I hope) dickheads out there who have contempt for their efforts and success (called tall poppy syndrome)?- guilty. Wish them well, whether that includes them carrying on cruising, with or without sharing videos or not, whether going from the lead sinker to a cat is a success for them or not, whether they remain as a couple or not?- guilty. Right then. You can go now. Maybe get off the angry juice. Go sailing.
  11. Ok! It's just getting annoying now. Still holed up in Port on their luxurious floating apartment. "Ooh, looky, more storage space here, here, here and here." Back to my original post of wanting to see their reactions when they sheet in on their new 9 ton 48' cat, with daggerboards, and a big stonking rig, on a beam reach in 15-20 knots and they're sitting on 20's all day. That will be hilarious.
  12. Yes, well, ironically the things that stuff up most on sailing boats are friggin' motors (and toilets, and electrics, and everything else) but two raisable outboards give an all day cruising speed of 8 knots (more if needed) and give really great manoeuvrability in tight spots and a combined burn rate of about 6 litres per hour is pretty good I reckon.
  13. Mysterious. Definitely. HLV is shown as 2nd on line honours? My view is that the YB tracker was suppose to increase interest and hopefully therefore, as a consequence, make the race more, you know, interesting to the non- participants (and of course for the competitors too because they look at it for tactical reasons) and that interest, I propose, could jolt lazy slobs like me to take up the challenge and actually participate. But hey, we've had the YB tracker the last few years and with numbers of (dare I say it, only) 10 starters (who I must congratulate for making the effort of starting and it looks like it was a magical run they got for their efforts), I suppose trying something new like hiding the results until the presentation to maybe increase participation numbers at the preso might have some benefit???- (our club, too, hides the results of the last 3 races of summer twilight season for similar reasons but I don't think it works). However, for mine, I would've preferred the tracker to remain accurate. Or maybe there was a problem with it. Anyway, talking about B2G and good Ol' Crowthers with B2Gs under their belts I just saw good Ol' Kiska bobbin about on its mooring.
  14. "Some element of mystery" that's one way to put it. Currently YB can't get the line honour positions right as far as I can see.
  15. I thought there were 11 entrants but I'm only seeing 9 on the tracker. Noice conditions. Bummer for Rushhour.