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  1. Shhhh....don't tell the world but in Australia they sail all year around without snow and ice. Global warming is alive and well !!!!!!!!
  2. The 70th Brisbane to Gladstone race.

    Thanks for the heads up LB. Talking about comprehension the purpose of the message was to get your boat's name. Hard to understand I guess !
  3. The 70th Brisbane to Gladstone race.

    So what's that doyen of all things ocean racing LB15 boat's name. I'd like to follow it so I can avoid making all the mistakes I've been making over a similar timeframe ?
  4. The 70th Brisbane to Gladstone race.

    Weight saving ? Ditch LB !
  5. I'm not yelling

    FWIW on our boat we sail with 6 /7 racing.. I've always had two rules. One is everyone must have fun ! And the most fun is being competitive, which we are. Second is sail with people whose company you enjoy and they enjoy sailing with me. No rockstars here. One or two races sorts that out. I have a list of about 10 crew ,some with greater experience than others. Sometimes in adverse conditions I have to raise my voice and occasionally yell. But I consciously direct it at the unfolding event not the person. Mostly we have no crisis, due to no crew turnover . Also I've kept most people focused on the same job. I do tactics with input. I keep crew out of the occasional protest. I'm liberal with praise and take the fall for crap decisions. PC is non existent and we always have a quiet little drink after no matter what the weather. I think the main message is that you all have to get on and accept that there can only be one skipper.
  6. "Sailing" v "Yachting"

    That big bad ogre of some sailors ,Russel Coutts ,has it right with his interview on Sail World, about his Foundation. Won't go into it here but he's correct in that sailing has to be fun . Won't suit everyone BUT they will get the opportunity. For older generations who yachted one day (racing) and sailed the next we had the best of both worlds. Not too many rules, parents, crash boats like today and no one came to grief. Most of us went on to a lifetime addiction, still having fun by ignoring stupid rules, restrictions , and looking with wonder why the powers that be anguish over diminishing participation
  7. Boatyard negotiations, could use some advice...

    A number of posters have told you to get a lawyer. This is the only advice you need. Your problems started a long time ago and have been getting worse. The only thing left is that you are unaware of how big they are.
  8. My Next Boat

    Go for an inboard engine if you want a happy family.Look after it and it will be one of the greatest safety factors you will ever have when it hits the fan
  9. justice

    Agree Janbart. Too much of this sensationalist comment leads to too much PC. But David's article is right on. If there's no significant penalty then rules aren't worth the paper they are written on. That's relevant rules on the racetrack and not procedural rules. How much trouble is it for organisers to call by a boat and remind them about a declaration ,email them or phone them. After all they zealously collect all this info on the entry form along with the fee.
  10. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    Now this thread is wound down and drifting like Rimas perhaps its time to close it off. Its been an eye opener to witness how differently a few saw the incident. Makes you grateful you're not like them but also scary that you have to share the road with them and, worse, much worse have them on the Protest Committee at your local yacht club making things up as they go. Maybe its time to have no fees for an appeal based on this example in an attempt to infuse some confidence in the so called system of sailing justice. Its easy to understand after this how some of the local yokel decisions are arrived at. Morons, but the power is in their hands and they know it ! A few reversals at appeal might get rid of them ?
  11. Pittwater to Paradise 2018

    But at least you will be safe ? Or not. The most dangerous part of sailing is driving to the boat. What's SA doing about that ?
  12. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    Great to see that doyen of all things ocean sailing LB15 has escaped from the manger in Bethlehem after Christmas, walked across the oceans and delighted us mere minions who have nowhere near the wisdom he has to enlighten us way after the event. Must be the crown prince of hindsight.
  13. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    As predicted WOX1 got the penalty it asked for.. Well done to IJ and has gone some way to reinstate faith that the OB network is being rolled. Watching interviews with Richo I can't help being reminded of the adage, 'a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still'. IMO he's toast now. Why Ian Murray or some other racing sailor wasn't helming beats me and no doubt will be if there is a next time. With the patriarch gone things have changed and if its not sold there will be big changes in the afterguard ? BTW where have the trolls who couldn't understand what happened gone ? Hope they don't turn up on a racetrack near to you with their lack of rules knowledge. Probably not real sailors ?
  14. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    Well trt131 and others I'll bet you were on the Protest Committee of the YC I sailed with. There, rules knowledge was poor and decisions based around personalities, blind prejudice and ignorance. So thankfully not all PC are made up of your ilk. Wail and moan all you like. Lesson is do your circles or keep well clear when on Port !
  15. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    Are some of you really racing sailors or members of the Hail Fellow Well Met Yacht Club (HFWMYC). This isn't Opti Green Fleet sailing. There was an incident, a protest flag was flown etc. etc..Options open to both parties were taken or not taken based on judgements made at the time. So now that incident can be examined by an independent (we hope ) I J. That's it fellas. Nothing to do with bad sportsmanship. Protests are part of the way our sport is played.