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    Arizona modelling

    May I inquire as to which part of BE's post is misinformation? Did BE fabricate the charts? Or are you saying his opinion on what the charts reveal is the misinformation? If the latter is so, then maybe you should report yourself. Can you state with 100% certainty that within a few weeks hospitals will be overrun? If so, what's your proof, or is it merely speculation on your part? If so, you should say "may" rather than "will" And, is it really necessary to say that a post has been reported for misinformation. Seems superfluous to me, unless one is virtue signalling.
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    Amateur couple rebuilds salvage cruiser

    My guess would be they added lams until they either ran out of epoxy or ran out of glass.
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    Amateur couple rebuilds salvage cruiser

    I think they said they laid up 10 lams of 1700 in what looks like a single day - probably less since they started in daylight. So maybe 1 hour per lam - 2 at most. Amine blush should not be an issue.
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    Fattest boats

    IOR rule was a factor in it - but not that much. Mainly just a trend IOR designers went through for a couple of years in the early 70's - because it disappeared very quickly. You would be hard pressed to find an IOR boat with tumblehome designed after about 1974. Tumblehome 2 was in the '78 HTC - but she was a 5-6 year old design at that point. Jones more recent designs at the '78 HTC- mainly the Hustler 32s were similar in overall concept but didn't have the tumblehome or the reverse bow. There were quite a few Hustler 32s at the HTC that year with Smokey Bear finishing second behind Waverider. I recall reading an article by one of the designers at the time saying that tumblehome was intended to reduce the heeled waterline beam and make the underwater shape less asymmetrical - reducing wave drag and weather helm (I guess it was thought to favourably shift the CLR a bit too - IDK). Of course on the downside, it would tend to move the CB inward as you progressively heeled- reducing the righting arm.
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    Fattest boats

    Most of Stephen Jones early Half Ton designs, circa 1972. i.e. Demolition, Supernova, Smiffy and the aptly named Tumblehome 2 which Ish has a plan view photo above. Below are Tumblehome 2 and Smiffy (past and present):
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    Go Home Kook

    Except the fisticuffs involved a beer bottle cracked over a skull, which goes way beyond normal fisticuffs IMO. And cutting a hole in a sail goes beyond just trash talkin'. I actually sailed with one of the crew a few years later on another boat. A South African immigrant. Word was he was an ex-merc. Nice enough guy but a bit wound at times. Never asked him if he was a merc in SA and he never divulged whether he was or not either.
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    Go Home Kook

    This was back in the days of IOR. The story has been told here before as part of an old thread. For those who don't know, P.I.T.C.H was Pacific International Ton Championship and was probably the premiere event in PNW back then. A three day regatta starting on a Friday afternoon. In the One Ton class there was a barging incident in the first race between a Y36 and P35 resulting in Y protesting P. The protest was upheld that evening. The story as I recall was that on the way to the starting area the next morning some crew on the P35 were seen pounding their fists into their palms as they passed by the Y. As the Y was raising their headsail, they noticed about a square foot hole cut out of the luff of the genoa. That evening, the moored Y kept a crew stationed in the cockpit to prevent further damage. Apparently said crew ended up having a beer bottle broken over his skull. This either precipitated or was proceeded by a brawl among the 2 crews in the yacht club, that I think ended up in the parking lot. Several arrests IIRC and the skipper of P and some of the crew were subsequently handed multi-year bans from racing. I wasn't there to witness it first hand, but I believe Rain man (a regular SA poster) was, so he can probably fill in other details or provide any necessary corrections.
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    Go Home Kook

    OK. Thanks. But who the fzck reads the front page?
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    Go Home Kook

    Similar to what? I can think of at least one other incident far worse than the one you've described (P.I.T.C.H early 80s IIRC)
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    Older well known IOR Boats

    In the right conditions a blooper is definitely faster. Not much, a couple of ticks on the knotmeter at best. We won our div and were 3rd overall in a Swiftsure in the mid 80s sometime. In no small part due to a borrowed blooper. The typical run home from the Bank to Race Rocks was reason enough and perhaps the only reason to have a blooper in PNW.
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    The Swedish Experiment

    You shouldn't have said Swine Flu epidemic(s). What is referred to as the Swine Flu pandemic was in 2009, which turned out to be much less lethal than originally predicted. My guess is you were referring to the 1958 (H2N2) and 1968 pandemics (H3N2) which were both avian in origin. H3N2 is a re-assorted (mutated) H2n2. Confusingly enough there is an H3N2v which is a re-assorted H3N2 and is considered a Swine Flu even though the H3N2 of 1968 was an Avian Flu. Strange things these viruses. I wanted to say you were cherry picking data, but Kate kind of handed that one to you (see above). However, the 1958 and 1968 influenza pandemics mentioned above both killed over 1M globally and over 100,00 in the US. Todays COVID 19 numbers (1.4M globally and 258,000 US) certainly exceed either of those pandemics, but not by an order of magnitude - so far. Something I found interesting on the web was in some old paper written about the 1968 pandemic where the authors were surprised that the US numbers were as bad as 1958. In other words, some things just don't change from the looks of it.
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    Martin 242 - "Fast Lane Fever"

    It's been at least 25 years since I stepped foot on one. So maybe they allow laminate sails now, IDK.
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    Martin 242 - "Fast Lane Fever"

    Keep in mind the tuning guide is for 242s with OD sails. With PHRF sails, it could be a different story. The OD sails were designed with economy in mind and aren't the nicest looking sails IMO. But they work. With the OD sails, my vague recollection about the main was in most breeze, no backstay and sheet the main in hard then dial in a few more clicks. Edit: Rainman, is that the old Treachery advertised for sale on FB? Externally looks to be in quite good shape. Sail inventory sounds pretty good. $8k seems like a nice price for it. For locals I mean. If you don't have a local OD fleet of them, then it probably seems like an outrageous price for an early 80s 24 footer.
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    Martin 242 - "Fast Lane Fever"

    While it looks like a sweet boat, I suggest you start your own thread on the Decision 7.5 rather than hijacking this one.
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    Martin 242 - "Fast Lane Fever"

    Good thing you are swapping the bulb. That old bulb is one of the worst I've seen. The new one you have cast looks great though. Very good shape to it.