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  1. Bedding primary ans secondary winches

    Yes, there is no other way. One shot won't do it. Even if you do torque it down all the way the first time, it will relax and loosen up over a short period of time as the tape creeps. It is imperative to do it over the span of a few days or even weeks. Probably a good idea to go through them all annually afterwards.
  2. Jeanneau Fun 24 - Anyone with experience?

    You have to be careful when you look at the numbers - especially SA/D Jeanneau provides an "upwind SA/D" of 31.45 which is a made up number based on their upwind sail area calc, There is no such thing as upwind SA/D. The numerator in the SA/D calc is based on I, J, P, & E only. Based on that I estimate SA/D to be around 26 which is comparable to the Platu 25 Note: here is the Sailboatdata page for the Jenneau Fun 23 which lists SA/D as just a bit under 26 which is still fairly healthy: http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=89
  3. X 24 class is a simplified J 24

    Probably a long shot, but might be able to go masthead with 105% headsails. Need to find a class of boat with suitable I & J where decent used jibs and spins are plentiful. Lengthen spreaders and move chain plates outboard to rail. Would require some calcs to see if the mast section above the speaders is adequate.
  4. X 24 class is a simplified J 24

    We did the same thing to a Martin 24 back in 1991 or so - and we weren't the first. Didn't have the fat head mains back then though. Stuck a 242 rig on it with custom sails but same basic sail plan. Ironically, I suggested this on an old thread here and got PM'd by one of the Oregon guys back then (Gladiator I think circa 2006) saying that the idea of putting a 242 rig on a 24 was idiotic. Perhaps I should have clarified that it also entailed using the basic 242 sail plan as well, not just the rig itself - but I thought that aspect would be self evident. We regularly beat the 242s boat for boat in under 8 or over 12 kts. 3 up at that! The boat was freakin' fast. Edit:; Just noticed it looks like the Martin 24s in the photo may be sailing 3 up as well
  5. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Seems carefully worded by her. While she may be implying it - she does not actually say they were being towed at 9 knots.
  6. Simple 2 burner gimbaled stoves

    The old Kenyon pressurized alcohol stoves were dangerous. But I find the Origo quite simple and safe. As Alex said, it doesn't take that much longer to boil a quart of water - not a few seconds, but a couple of minutes maybe. I think I timed it under 10 minutes.
  7. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Is this a Rorschach Test? I see Big Foot giving the finger to Jen whilst riding on the back of the Loch Ness Monster. Probably more truth in that than any of her other tales.
  8. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Maybe she meant erection?
  9. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    I think Longy still has you confused with the Sea Nymph motor mouth.
  10. Eds SC-33 Anarchy 3

    So she DNF'd on Sat and DNS'd on Sun. Safe to assume something broke?
  11. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Not according to shark expert Jen Appel
  12. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    He should be okay so long as he stays out of their living room
  13. Alternatives to Yammy T9.9

    I don't think there is anything close to it. I looked into alternatives a while back. Tohatsu or Suzuki makes one for sailboats, but I think it is less power. Merc used to have Bigfoots, but not sure if they are available new. any more. In either case, neither had anywhere near the 2.92 gear ratio of the T9.9 nor swung as big a prop with as much blade area. Maybe a Yamaha F15 with a low pitch Multi Thrust prop or one of the after market ones There is also the T25 but it costs 50% more and is over twice the weight of the T9.9 with slightly lower gear ratio. Would sure get the Dash moving though.
  14. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Except I think its pretty clear who actually wields the strap on in that relationship.
  15. Eds SC-33 Anarchy 3

    In another recent thread, I think the history of Muffin was that it was originally Ajax, then Medusa, now Muffin. There was a yellow SC 40 named Ajax in the late 80's or so. My guess is that the SC 33 you're thinking of was Ajax - prior to the owner at the time buying the SC 40.