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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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  1. I have a suggestion, go back and read the thread, and you might learn why they chose to go up there. Everyone else knows, because everyone else reads the freely available information.
  2. X 24 class is a simplified J 24

    Could this thing not be as simple as getting a PHRF rating for J24 without the genoa. Having done a wide variety of sailboat racing, I have got to say that lighthearted, O/D in beat up shitboxes where everyone has a laugh is quite appealing. I think it migh suit certain demographics quite well, as I get a little older I still like sailing, I still like racing. As life becomes more grown up I just can't really get a space in my head where I can take it very seriously.
  3. I thought the latter part of the last leg was where most records were set, with the sea state being a little kinder than the proper south.
  4. Craigslist - Not mocking

    I bought my venture 21 in Charleston SC, it had hull registration numbers from California, the trailer has a Montana tag.
  5. Santana 20/tuna 20

    People do make mods / non o/d sails for their boats. The boat I'm using it on never had an asym either. I think you are right about the numbers though, looks too high
  6. Santana 20/tuna 20

    Was it number 1979 ? Do you know if it ever had an asym, blue and white ?
  7. Santana 20/tuna 20

    Do you know anything about this boat ?? I bought a used spin, the bag says Flasher, 1979 on it. I was wondering where it came from.
  8. The citizenship requirement seems odd to me, as a green card holder one seems to be able to everything that a citizen can except vote and get a USCG 6 pack.
  9. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Stupid question, I watched most of this thinking how the fuck are they sailing on Starboard, then the drone shot shows them on port which makes sense. Am I missing something ? Lack of coffee ?
  10. X 24 class is a simplified J 24

    I think it's a good idea.
  11. Yes for the keel, I was assuming that boards and rudders can be removed, fixed and replaced with out hauling the boat
  12. Would it be right to think that the keel if tough to fix with the boat in the water, daggers and rudders I would guess are easy enough to fix without hauling the boat ?
  13. I caught some of the kerfuffle with ST, why are they now missing "three of their most experienced" who is off and why ? Who replaced them ?
  14. VOR 2017-18

    Just looking at names I recognize two points spring out. There's not much talk about vestas/11th hr. Looks like a strong team on paper. With two ostensibly dutch teams it's slightly surprising that neither of them bagged Carolijn Brouwer. Surely they would have wanted to, at least Azko, I gues Brunel was too late to form.
  15. VOR 2017-18

    I guess, but going to double down anyway. I can see why a lot of the under 30 / olympic / skiffie guys and girls wouldn't, but I would have thought most race vets / skippers / watch leaders would have it.