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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. I built a 1/96 scale plastic model of the USS Constitution, a Revell kit, it is still in production. With the bowsprit it was almost 3' long. It took about 2 months to build and paint the hull and tied down all 52 cannons individually, I didn't just tie knots for the cannons, I seized them just like the real deal. Then it took almost a year and a half to do the rigging. I also hand tied all of the foot ropes on each yardarm. I made it with the sails because that involved more rigging. I guess I was a glutton for punishment. The more lines that went into the rigging, the more difficult it was to run the next ones. I became quite adept at tying knots with tweezers. The model had an amazing amount of detail on it and several sizes of black and tan thread for the standing and running rigging. It looked pretty impressive when it was finished, my parents were amazed I spent all that time on it. I started it when I was 11 and finished when I was 13. I built a lot of models of all kinds, but I liked the ship models the best. I also took apart a watch, cleaned it and reassembled it (and it worked!) when I was 11 years old, at my father's jewelry store. I still have that watch. I was quite patient when I was young. Here is a link to a PDF of the rigging instructions. http://manuals.hobbico.com/rmx/85-0398-rigging.pdf I also did the big model of the Constitution along with the big model of the Cutty Sark when I was a kid. Upstairs I have the kit for the big model of the HMS Victory, made by a different company. I bought it over 30 years ago and haven't started it. I have the Cutty Sark model un-built in storage. My dad bought it before I was born. I'm 50.
  2. Search for Hotrod and start reading, we will see you in a month! Oh, Flyin' Hawaiian? I read a couple chunks a while back. Many pages just read the first couple posts on each page - pretty easy to see where the good parts started and jumped around from there. Some entertainment for sure.
  3. Well, I did read the Metal Boats thread in its entirety the other day. Like most forums there are always little nuggets of wisdom in even the most wandering of threads. Sorry, late response that was partially typed and not replied to Hobie Dog's comment about mandatory reading of Hotrod.
  4. Probably the best response.
  5. Definition of yacht : any of various recreational watercraft: such asa : a sailboat used for racingb : a large usually motor-driven craft used for pleasure cruising So I guess my initial impression was incorrect. I really didn't think any race sailboat was a yacht. I did learn something today. Besides, who knew an Opti is a yacht? Thanks!
  6. you plan to get most of your building materials from Lowe's or Home Depot Because you asked nicely, here you go. Now what?
  7. Been reading much, posting little, trying to learn. I read here and Woodenboat forum primarily with Bateau and Glen-L secondarily as I plan to build a boat in wood. I've built an airplane and cars, sailboat is next. Referring to smaller craft as yachts doesn't happen much here unless someone refers to a a yot or being yotty but at least on WBF I hear of 20-24 ft boats being referred to as yachts. Seems a bit pompus to me but maybe my impression of a yacht is different. To me at yacht would be 50 ft, maybe down to 40 and suitably appointed with furnishings befitting it's size and also something that I likely couldn't afford. So, SA, what is your minimum definition of a yacht? It can be in terms of length, cost, features or any other definition of the subject at hand.
  8. I must retract my first post. I did hear back from the other two today. All were friendly and invited me out to watch, talk to the sailors and possibly crew. And dogwatch's comment about normally looking for those who are already sailors as opposed to training is justified. Random, I checked the club website. Last updated in 2015. They did say that they will be having a few "fun races" for training and newbs this year so I will attend.
  9. Newb here. Been reading SA for a month or so every day and this thread intrigued me so I've been following. I'm 49 and live in Nebraska where there is virtually no water. I've sailed exactly once back in the 80's on a friend's dad's boat in a regatta. Had a good time but didn't pursue it. A few months ago I bought a second home in AR on Bull Shoals lake - 45,000 acres and 70 miles long so I've been getting interested in sailing now that I have access to "real water". Sent three emails to the local Snipe club (the only three with listed addresses on the club website) as I thought that would be a good way to get my feet wet and learn sailing and then in 3-4 years when I retire down in AR I'd get a bigger boat. Only one response out of the three. I'm basically begging them to let me get involved in Snipe racing and the one that replied indicated that attendance has been flagging. If the racers can't take care of those that express sincere interest, what can you expect? Sorry to disappoint the tits or GTFO crowd. Google will get you what you need.