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  1. In Dutch but Google can fix it for you: https://www.clubracer.be/2017/10/27/debriefing-rond-dodelijk-ongeval-zeiljacht-capella
  2. caption contest

    suits of AkzoNobel said the anti fouling works fine
  3. VOR 2017-18

    Reminds me of Lawrie Smith smoking on Silk Cut at a start of the 1998 - code 0- whitbread...
  4. As I stated before, I don't want to speculate on the origin of the tragedy. I can confirm that the keel is (very) thin and the bolt pattern is not aligned but also not paired. It is more a zig zag pattern with the first and last on the centre line. If you know what to see, you can see it on this still from the same salvage video.
  5. There'll be an investigation by the Belgian government (foso), the investigation will be confidential but the final report will be made available.
  6. Still shocked by the dead of Frans. A true gentleman, a true yachtsman and a wonderful designer with an enormous track record. None of you noticed but his yacht doesn’t have anti fouling because it wasn’t necessary, he pulled her out of the water when not sailing (ok, the guy had his own yard). That’s how meticulous he was for his Capella. I will not go into details about the keel failure but the keel was very thin at the root and the bolts were not aligned (although the still suggest otherwise).
  7. Vendee Globe 2016?

    He fell from the boom on his back, immediately crawled to the lower part of the cockpit and lost consciousness. He woke up hearing a non existing engine...
  8. Vendee Globe 2016?

    AT's DTL does not get under 10% of ALC's DTF... DTF ALC DTL AT DTL/DTF 330 36.26 11% 350 40.1 11% 383 39.5 10% 435.2 42.2 10% 459.5 57.5 13% 482.5 69.2 14% 515 72.3 14% 553 74.9 14% 597 75.7 13% 699 75 11% 763 74.6 10% 812 78.1 10% 866 78.4 9% 923.4 73.3 8% 998 71.8 7% 1126 85.4 8% 1205 88.5 7% 1264 95 8% 1324 100 8%
  9. Vendee Globe 2016?

    FWIW, I've calculated the number of tacks since the start (roughly). Based upon the tracks (http://vg2016.regadata.org/vg2016.kmz) of 12.00 today. A "tack" counts when the heading between two positions on the track (with one intermediate point) changes more than 40 degrees. The distance travelled is simplified to 25000-DTF (today 12.00) Grumpy Pieter is definitely the tack master (autopilot issues?), I would have expected AT tacked much more than ALC
  10. Vendee Globe 2016?

    http://www.vendeeglobe.org/download-race-data/vendeeglobe_20170111_210000.xlsx Looks ok
  11. Vendee Globe 2016?

    Is the track (not the coords at each positions report) of the boats somewhere available? I would like to try to calculate the number of gybes & tacks for each of them. I think ALC has the lowest gybe/tack to distance ratio.
  12. Vendee Globe 2016?

    those colors and only one foil...
  13. Vendee Globe 2016?

    Longitudes and latitudes back in excel!
  14. Vendee Globe 2016?

    Marine containers can be up to 40 foot long and depending of content (for example full of electronics that is packed into polystyrene packing foam) they can stay afloat only one corner above the water and the other end near to the surface because the bouncy center is almost in the middle. The other issue is that it might not stay above the water all the time. It is heavy and it is hard to move this mass up and down according to wave action. There will be lag in its movement. It is quite possible that the boat was surfing on top of the wave and the container was rising toward surface. Basically the wave helped the boat with it fully canted keel over the container. Of course, if the density of the container is lower than the surrounding water it floats, if higher it sinks but because of some typical stuff in a container (a lot of air, some devices and packing material), the density of a damaged container is often close to the density of the water (intact it floats). Including some external forces (waves) the container starts to fluctuate close to the free surface, sometimes above, sometimes under. Over time the foam decays and the container sinks
  15. Vendee Globe 2016?

    This is what ALC says: Savoir lever le pied : « Nous allons mettre la course entre parenthèses dans le gros de la dépression. Le but sera bien de préserver le bateau car on n’a pas le droit à un joker dans le Vendée Globe… Les conditions s’amélioreront à partir de dimanche. Je ferai alors le bilan et si tout va bien je remettrai du charbon. Nous ne sommes qu’à la moitié du parcours, je continue à naviguer en bon marin car la suite de la course va être piégeuse. » Something like: "We will put the race on hold during the huge depressions, the goal will be preserving the boat because we don't have a joker during a VG. The conditions will improve from Sunday on. I'll reflect by then and if everything goes well je remettrai du charbon (+- I'll put coals on the fire again). We're only half way, I'll continue navigating cautiously because next part of the course will be trapping" Yes, English side is unequal to the French one...