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  1. SuperFoiler Grand Prix 2018

    To me it's obvious that foiling boats are more dangerous. Mainly because speeds are higher. Reaction times are shorter. Impact energy increase with the square of speed. Foils are sharper. (That lifted windward board looks like the most dangerous object on the superfoiler. A huge sword ready to cut into your flesh after a small mistake.) I also have a background in racing motorcycles. To me sailing isn't dangerous. Speeds are slow. Water is relatively soft. Sure you can get some cuts and bruises, but compared crashing in 180km/h it's no big deal. My biggest fear when sailing is getting hit unconscious and drowning (since I sail alone). These guys have a crew and rescue boats close by. But there are of course still the risk of a serious accident. My heart beats faster when they sail close to each other at high speed. But that is part of this kind of racing. The sailors are there for the thrill of sailing these superfoiler.
  2. SuperFoiler Grand Prix 2018

    I think some of you seem to have a very square mindset when it comes to sailing. Yes, they are kind of racing V8s on a gokart track with potholes in the corners and spectators in the sandtraps. Isn't that a bit fun? Like, fun in a way where it's not all serious but still in a competitive spirit? Like things used to be as kids, you know? I think it can be a bit fun to watch sailing on television. But most of the time it's not. Sailing for real is much more fun. Except when there is no wind. But then you can relax on the trampoline. Except when it is a snowy winter. That is when you watch sailors on television almost crash into each other, and then capsize on the finish line.
  3. 14' Stunt S9 Foiling Cat

    Just a guess, the sail/boom "behaves" better during the gybe?
  4. Bucket List

    Nice! That looks very smooth. How much of a drag penalty is it to have these two T-boards compared to one L-board, like they used in the Americas cup? To me, it doesnt look like much drag when you are able to do gybe after gybe in what looks like light-medium wind. But I've been reading that on the outside of the lee T, the vertical board creates positive pressure, while the foil creates negative pressure. And that is supposed to be draggy? Nice boat.
  5. SuperFoiler Grand Prix 2018

    I have one piece of criticism though: Why don't they bring some basic spare parts to the locations where they race? The minimum should be an extra set of boards, rudders, sails, and all the small bits of ropes and pulleys for the rigging. And ideally, they should bring one of these sets for each team. And finally, a spare boat. According to the news, one team member had to drive 1800km this weekend to get some spare parts. And I think we can conclude that an extra set of boards doesn't even exist, since one team couldn't race on Sunday after a board was damaged.
  6. SuperFoiler Grand Prix 2018

    For me, the fact that the sailors are new to the boat, is positive. Makes it interesting to watch, and follow their progress. It also gives some insight into how much skill is needed to become a good sailor, and the incredible gains that can be made if you are. The dream team was 50% faster than the slowest boat in the gusty conditions on Sunday. In another thread about a-cat races, Glenn Ashby was 50% faster than most of the fleet, in gusty conditions. That amazes me, that it's possible to read the wind, trim the sails, and steer the boat, in a way which makes the boat so much faster. So I have enjoyed watching these races. The commentators, who were a bit hesitant/unsynced in the first races, are getting a nice flow in their commentary. And it's pure joy to watch the foilers at full flight downwind.
  7. 2017/18 Australian A Class Championships

    This time it was not just the slow guys who were lapped though, if I understood the report correct!=) Glenn lapped everyone except Brawin, (including Outerridge and the rest of top 5) is what I understood. He must have an exceptional talent of reading the wind and trimming the sails. Or could it be that he also had a better setup boat? Like, larger foils fitted? Is it legal to switch equipment during a regatta? Could you for example fit a sail with a larger roach on a calm day?
  8. 2017/18 Australian A Class Championships

    So Glenn Ashby sailed 3 laps faster than all but one sailor sailed 2 laps? As an amateur sailor, I'm wondering, how is it possible to be that superior, to sail 50% faster than the other sailors in the same conditions?
  9. 2018 Australian Multihull Championships

    Is there a stream/radio/report of the a-cat championchips?
  10. Artemis?

    According to analyses of that incident, they were not on collision course though.
  11. The winning foils

    They have some serious camber in those foils.
  12. The winning foils

    What are your theories about what advantages the steel brings? A good high modulus carbon composite has higher strength and better modulus of elasticity than steel. Where is the steel used?
  13. The winning foils

    Nice interview Where can I watch the previous with Martin Fischer that she mentions in the beginning?
  14. Apparent wind upwind is roughly boat speed + 70% of wind speed. So about 30-35 knots yesterday. A sitting cyclist has a cda of about 0.5 m2, which gives a drag of about 100N at that speed. Not totally insignificant in the equation actually. So I have to correct myself, I think it helps. Let's say the difference in crew aero drag makes a difference in boat speed of half a knot. That is a difference of 300m in 20 min of sailing. Maybe next time we will se the crew inside aero shaped "cockpits".
  15. I think foils and wing shape is the main factors of NZ performance, not the drag of the crew. The low profile of the crew is kind of unnecessary when the skipper exposes his full frontal area to the wind.