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    Sailing, SUP, SCUBA, Windsurfing, Fishing, Kayaking, Canoeing, Swimming

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    BENE slow first 235

    Yeesh. I picked up a nearly-immaculate Catalina 22 in good sailing condition with new sails (plus new asym cruising spin), great condition trailer, new standing rigging, and a whole host of goodies from Catalina Direct for $4200 back in April of this year. PO had all the paperwork in order and came with a (so far!) bulletproof, first-pull-start Honda 5 horse. I'd expect a 20-22 ft. sailboat to be in great cruising condition with no major outstanding issues for $5k. Bene 235 is even more annoying because you don't have Catalina Direct to supply all the parts & pieces. Asking $5k for a non-pedigree 22' boat in need of what is surely another $5k of maintenance (not upgrades, just maintenance) to go in the water? The guy is either crazy or, more likely, has never had a boat before and doesn't understand how boat valuation works. Actually, given that he bought a 22'er with extensive water damage, no rigging or sails, and never put it in the water, that's probably what happened... it's up to you whether you want to educate him or not!
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    Sailing to Maine. Outside Route

    Going around the Cape is a pretty major detour for you from LIS. Canal has a speed limit but a sailboat won't be able to exceed that. Cape Cod Bay is a lovely sailing spot and hugging the west coast gives you easy access to Boston and means you won't get battered by SW chop like you would if you were going N-NW from Ptown. Otherwise it's like 80 miles to go from Buzzards Bay through the Sound, around Monomoy, up the coast and to Ptown. There's nowhere on the east coast of the Cape I'd ever take a sailboat into, and I just got off 2 days of bluefin fishing out of Chatham. Ptown is cool but Gloucester would be my stop of choice instead--easy anchoring right inside the breakwater and a smattering of great little breakfast spots that have sustained me on many early fishing trips. I'm sending this from the deck of a fishing boat in the Sound right now so please forgive any spelling errors... Also, the advice on anchoring at Nantucket is much appreciated--im a week out from taking my little Catalina 22 from Wychmere to Nantucket and have been scoping out some anchoring spots on my charts. Any other advice is appreciated
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    Kayak, Sit in or on?

    The boat definitely matters. There's lots of slow plastic barges out there. I have a 20 y.o. workhorse of a sea kayak that's 17 feet by 2 feet. It's a joy to paddle and I can carry over my shoulder. I'm not an expert paddler but it's so easily driven due to hull shape that I'm barely trying as friends in wider, shorter boats are struggling. Doubly so in wind and chop, which this slices through. Also good for cavern diving if you're in a pinch... and yes, all of that fit inside my boat
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    Hard dinks, nesting dinks, and why we like them

    I use a much-loved Walker Bay 8. Any ideas on how to find a cheap used sailing rig for it? I figure it could be a good for my various larking needs and/or as an alternative to the outboard.
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    Diesel Engine Delete

    We use a pretty serious (several multiples of what is recommended) dose of algaecide in our commercial fishing boats on each tank fill, which is almost daily in the fishing seasons. Can't remember the product name, will try next time I'm on the boat, but it's mainly intended for generator fuel tanks. We've never had a problem with algae, and these tanks get mixed up pretty good when below half-full and slamming at 18 kts into a headsea for a few hours. Of course, that might actually help with keeping them cleaned. Incidentally, we have a de-rated 6.7 L Cummins making ~400 powering the boat. 60% engine load at 70% throttle and 2,200 RPM cruising for our heavy-ass 30' tuna boat. The same block can do way more work (diesel guys use a similar automobile version and get 1000+ HP out of it) and the non-continuous duty versions put out crazy power. Interesting how algae can live in a mostly anaerobic, sunless, hydrocarbon environment. This is particularly cool if this means organisms can adapt to the conditions of Titan or something, a cold hydrocarbon moon too far distant from the sun to get much light...
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    the greatest

    In the spirit of the J/24, Laser, and Hobie cat, I would also like to mention the humble Catalina 22. There's a reason that this is such a popular boat. Nice proportions, long waterline for its length, canoe underbody. Boats that bring 15,000 people into sailing (before you even start to count the number of C-22's with second, third, fourth, fifth, etc. owners which are still going strong) are impressive in that light alone. For consideration, here is my '86 C-22 Saiorse: There's nothing so shocking or revolutionary about the design besides it being a trailerable 22' that an average car can pull. What is cool to me, however, is that in less than 10 years we went from full-keel short-waterline boats to largely modern-type layouts. Compare the Pearson Electra (1960) to the C-22 (1969): The Electra has 4' less waterline, 6" less beam, and weighs 800 lbs more with the same sail area. Comparing the transom shape and size of the two is insane--and to think this all happened in the time we went from Gemini to the moon landings. The C-22 is no moon lander, but it is the Toyota Corolla (most popular car in the world) of the sea, and that's gotta count for something?!?
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    Who would not like to travel like Greta?

    I wouldn't accept an IMOCA (or even 10) in trade for all the abuse and loss of privacy that comes with being a galvanizing public figure. Agree with her or not, can you imagine being in the spotlight from 16 years old? But if you're already (in)famous, why pass up the opportunity for a sail??
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    The Future of Propulsion This is really cool as a concept, but one has to wonder what the efficiency losses are through using solar power to produce (and compress, and refrigerate if cryogenic) hydrogen. Wouldn't it be way more efficient to have electric motors driven directly by that solar power instead? I understand that they want to be able to store some of that power for when the sun isn't out by using hydrogen, but surely the weight of batteries is less of a problem than the storage of liquid or highly compressed hydrogen. I wonder if you could build a yacht with lead-acid batteries for ballast?
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    Mocking Ads on Craigslist

    Maybe they accidentally added two (or three) zeroes on the price? I'm not a Mainer, but is the Ski Hall of Fame really such a big deal?
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    Boat Transport from Fla to RI?

    8' on the local roads around me in coastal MA, I guess 8' 6" is the national limit before you need a wide load permit. Not all states require an escort for 8' 6" loads but 10' 3" may mean you need an escort for most states. It's a patchwork of laws, this site has a lot of info: We scrape by with our 30' and 40' commercial downeast boats (10' and 15' beam respectively) with no escort for a few miles to the harbor from storage yards, which is fairly common practice around here. This is on local roads with no bridges, powerlines, or traffic. Pertinent quote from the aforementioned site: "Most states do not require escort vehicles for loads that are no more than 10 feet wide, while a few states require escort vehicles for all oversize loads. Depending on the type and size of the load, only one, or two escort vehicles will be required."
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    Boat Transport from Fla to RI?

    What kind of powerboat? A center console is one thing, but a 30' downeast style boat is a whole other issue. I assume the beam is more than the 8' general limit. FL to RI is a long way to try and truck it without an escort/wide load permit in that case (and I'd be shocked if a company was willing to do that, but some truckers are cowboys), and won't be cheap to do the right (legal) way. If it sits higher than 13' 6" (a real issue for a built-down boat with a keel as opposed to a center console or other powerboat) then trucking it is definitely a no-go. It'd be worth getting quotes from a trucking company but I would imagine that getting repairs done in FL and motoring up the ICW would be cheaper than 1300 miles of highway driving with an escort and permit.
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    Catalina 22: the Seagoing Corolla

    Something I never would have learned without either making a mistake on my own, or asking for help on this forum! Thanks Ish.
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    Catalina 22: the Seagoing Corolla

    No leaks! Even a hard day of rain doesn't wet the bilges. PO rebedded most deck hardware at some point and she's tight as a drum. Boat came with a cruising spinnaker and big extendable pole, but the only times I've ever flown a spin before have been on a 420 and all have ended in capsize. I'll wait for a nice day and a friend for crew before hoisting this one... Good advice on the rudder, thank you. I don't plan on pushing the boat to the edge this season, but who knows what could happen?!
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    Rocket Launch!

    As a kid, I always thought the space shuttle was the coolest machine in the world. I never got to see a launch (they just so happened to scrub every time my family was in the area on vacation) and always regretted it. Now as an adult I can recognize the failings of the shuttle. It cost 20 times more than the Falcon 9 ($65m for a new F9 vs. $1-2 bil. per-launch cost across whole shuttle program.) The shuttle carried barely 5 tons more cargo than the Falcon (22 tons F9 expendable vs. 27 tons shuttle) but risked a minimum crew of 4 every time it launched even routine cargo. It killed two complete crews. Even less forgivable, the crew of the Challenger were alive and conscious after launch failure, and instead died on impact. Soyuz, a 60-year-old vehicle, has had 3 successful launch aborts, saving the crew each time. I cannot fathom the arrogance that went into building the shuttle--a vehicle with only 3 abort landing sites, no launch escape mechanism, and which never was asked to perform a launch abort. Crew Dragon instead has something like 50 potential landing sites and successfully completed an abort test, see article here: I'm too young for the successes of Apollo, and am just old enough to remember the Columbia disaster and shuttle cancellation. I'm excited that, for the first time in my short life, it feels like the US is actually taking a rational step into space. Even if this rocket goes kaboom and the crew aborts this rocket will have done something the space shuttle never could manage--failing without killing everyone aboard.