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  1. I see your spelling skills have returned Snags.
  2. OK here is a recent boat under way embarrassment. My trimaran has the outboard out of reach from the cockpit. To aid in tight-quarter maneuvering, a simple rope-in-a-pipe is used to connect the outboard to the tiller, so moving the tiller moves outboard and rudder in unison. Well, I messed up the approach to our end tie (this is when I miss having a monohull), and backed away to try again. But, the boat was not backing in the direction I was steering it. I glanced at the motor and it all became very clear, I had forgotten to re-connect the rope-in-a-pipe when I put the engine back down after our sail. By this time, the very sharp trailing end of our starboard ama was on a ramming course with the topsides of a boat on the other side of the narrow channel. I asked (OK yelled at) my wife to quickly take the helm, and I jumped aft to connect the motor to the tiller, then jumped back into the cockpit to gun the engine and avoid a nasty collision. I did thank my wife afterward for responding quickly, and also apologized for yelling.
  3. I have plenty embarrassing sailing stories, but the things I find especially embarrassing are related to boat building. Things like drilling a hole in the wrong end of a board, beveling the end of a piece of joinery the wrong direction, and other assorted "Doh!" moments. My solution is to write "Port Top Forward" or similar in pencil on most parts, perhaps with some strategically placed arrows for clarity. One would think this would cure the problem, but it has merely reduced the frequency of occurrence. The method also gets a little confusing when the boat is upside down. I guess (until now) these aren't really public embarrassments, but they are embarrassing nonetheless. As an aside: My dad was a stickler for precision, and he would get hopping mad when the part he carefully measured, re-measured, and then skilfully cut would not fit properly. My takeaway from his travails is that short of high-precision mill work, you can't rely on it fitting exactly. So, I leave a tiny bit extra and plane, file, and/or sand that last little bit to fit. CNC machined parts sure help, but even they can have enough tolerance that the fit-up needs a little "help"
  4. Bob, No offense intended. I can't agree more that your boats are not cartoonish. A cartoon is a caricature, in that it exaggerates defining features. Your cartoons exaggerate the defining features of small salty yachts that make the little yachts themselves a pleasure to view, and make their caricatures elicit fond memories, a pleasant sigh, and hopes for future pleasant journeys on similar craft. Take that progression backward from cartoon to yacht, by removing the exaggerated-ness of all those pleasing features and you're left with the salty little yacht itself, in all its pleasant perfection. That's what I was trying to say, and I probably still haven't said it right - crap. Just keep doing what you're doing and continue to make beautiful, functional boats and heart-warming cartoons; I love them both. -Steve -Steve
  5. The first Dix boat had a kink in the sheer as well, so that was what I was looking for (that's my excuse). I completely missed the curve of the planking, and that is very disturbing (both the planking kink and my missing it).
  6. Black Widow

    Answered my own question: Defender, Jamestown Distributors and others carry it. Is it the same stuff it was 20 years ago?
  7. Black Widow

    I'm using Petit's Vivid, and though it started out hard, it is softening over time. The boat has been in the water 7 months now. Would love to get my hands on the old Balto-plate. Is that even available anymore?
  8. Sailing art

    I think you miss-spelled that one Snags...
  9. There was a biblical prescription to this problem which basically said, if you divorce your wife and her next husband dies or divorces her, you cannot marry her again. Still sound advice.
  10. Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    At least your Ruby's turds are tapered at the ends...
  11. My newest project

    Just a comment on having purchase systems in the boom. The 3:1 mainsheet purchase is in the boom on my I-14 dinghy. This is on a boat where everything that can get stuck, hung up, messed up, jammed and wrapped around your neck, does so, often, and at the worst possible time. However, my mainsheet purchase has always worked smoothly. I am inclined to think these reefing systems will be trouble free.
  12. My newest project

    Proa, I'm not sure that is what Bob described (he said purchase systems), but the first image looks like what I imagined. The tack will come down first in your second image due to friction effects. Friction is equal for both tack and clew in the first image. Bob, I have no questions, but I keep checking in to look at the latest photos and your usual tidbits of wisdom.
  13. Mast or boom furling?

    Good one Jack S.
  14. Mast or boom furling?

    And another personal anecdote to illustrate the difference between in-mast mainsail furling and a furling jib: We went to furl our jib earlier this summer and the drum spun, but the jib did not. I simply released the halyard and pulled the jib down onto the foredeck. Now, given the right set of circumstances, a failure of an in-mast mainsail furler may have allowed me to release the halyard and pull the main down, but maybe not. Btw, back at the dock, a couple of replacement machine screws and some loctite fixed the jib furler.
  15. Mast or boom furling?

    I was sailing large circles with my wife a week or so ago, trying to helping her understand the points of sail and appropriate sail trim, when we noticed a 40-ish Beneteau type doing smaller circles under power. Poor guy was standing on his cabin top, looking up the mast and yanking on the clew of his in-mast furling mainsail. When we finally left the area to continue on our sail, my wife looked back at him and observed, "no sailing for him today".