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  1. 30-34ft cruiser racer

    2010, sparcely used by a gang of elderly men :D. Afraid that it indicates that the boat is boring, but hope not.
  2. 30-34ft cruiser racer

    I am going for a live inspection of a J/97 tomorrow and would appreciate if the combined knowledge of the forum could inform me of any potential weak points or specific things to check in a J/97? The boat is not in the water so inspection of hull and appendices is possible. Thanks in advance,
  3. 30-34ft cruiser racer

    Ok, thanks for the tips and let us look at the boats proposed: JPK1010, none available or very expensive. Elan 333, not modern enough for my taste. J109, to large and deep keel. More crew, more expensive maintenance and sails. A35, not nice enough inside, also darn ugly and a bit bigger than I would want X34, none available and too expensive. X332, too classic for my taste, dislike genua instead of jib B34.7, dislike t-keel and perhaps interior layout B36.7, affordable but needs a lot of crew. quality problems? Dehler 34/35 SV, perhaps an option, but quite large again. A couple for sale in Northern Europe. So, still stuck with the J97 or potentially Dehler 34SV?
  4. 30-34ft cruiser racer

    This sounds great! Could you give me some examples of these boats, available in Northern Europe second hand preferably?
  5. 30-34ft cruiser racer

    Agree, but still a J109 is deeper (=less harbour access here), needs more crew and is more expensive to equip and maintain. But yes, the thought has crossed my mind.
  6. 30-34ft cruiser racer

    I´ve also been looking closely at the J97 and it seems to tick all the boxes for me: Small enough to be easily handled and cheap enough to equip with proper sails Potentially fast enough to have enough other boats in the same "speed group" in offshore events in Scandinavia Well-built? New enough not be worn out Jib-boat Asymmetric downwind, get to learn something new after exhaustive experience with symmetricals Possible to use for weekend/week cruising with the family Any major downsides with the 97 or other ideas in maximum the same price class?