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  1. VOR 2017-18

    The verdict and agreement must have been that AkzoNobel will settle for an amount to be established in further hearings, and that until then both parties will keep a complete radio silence. Correct Dorothy ? That Simeon would not be coming back on the boat was obvious, and equally that AkzoNobel is the biggest loser of the two.
  2. VOR 2017-18

    Wooden shoe, wooden head, wouldn't listen ...
  3. VOR 2017-18

    Thanks, wanted to try Hola some time ago, but found warnings like this: http://adios-hola.org/ , and this more recent article just now confirms it: https://www.cloudwards.net/hola-vpn/ . Wouldn't touch it with a 100ft spinnaker pole ! I use Tunnelbear which has a good safety rating, but get only 500MB for free, not enough for a long video. I saved the Sayula link in my "watch later" playlist.
  4. VOR 2017-18

    With very little new content on the VOR site, and awaiting the verdict of the Tienpont vs AkzoNobel arbitration, there may be time for a bit of Whitbread history. While browsing the zeehelden.com site I came across their youtube upload of the Flyer 2 film of the 1981/82 race. I've seen the film a long time ago, and watching it now on youtube is reminding me of how professional the racing already was in those days. And it certainly looks as exiting and competitive as the VOR now. Below is the 1st episode of 6, and the others come up subsequently. There is actually a lot more good Whitbread and Volvo stuff on youtube. Just a shame that the "Weekend Sailor" of Sayula is not available in my country.
  5. VOR 2017-18

    ok, ok buck, it's allright ...
  6. VOR 2017-18

    Somewhat conflicting news stories, but this one should be reliable. Also short video in dutch and some english in this link: https://nos.nl/artikel/2198593-zeilconflict-tienpont-akzonobel-naar-arbitrage-instituut.html Gtrans of the important bit: Simeon Tienpont will try to get his seat on board AkzoNobel via the Dutch Arbitration Institute (NAI). The case is Friday, two days before the start of the first stage of the Volvo Ocean Race. And yes, Jack Sparrow was right again, just a few minutes ago, he must have some experience in these matters: "In fact going the arbitration route indicates he may well think that come Sunday it is still possible to be on board as skipper."
  7. VOR 2017-18

    http://www.nai-nl.org/en/info.asp?id=968 How long does NAI arbitration take? The average duration of NAI arbitration is nine months. The duration depends on the complexity of the dispute and particularly the methods of litigation used by the parties (and their attorneys). So, with a bit of luck Simeon will trow a party at the finish in Scheveningen/The Hague, or there may be a free paintball fest.
  8. VOR 2017-18

    Google translate of update at Watersport TV. http://www.watersport-tv.nl/nw-31400-7-3671609/nieuws/simeon_tienpont_en_akzonobel__naar_nederlands_arbitrage_instituut.html?page=1 SIMEON TIENPONT AND AKZONOBEL TO THE NETHERLANDS ARBITRAGE INSTITUTE Breaking News: Published: 18-10-2017 Last modified: 18-10-2017 ROTTERDAM- Simeon Tienpont and his counselor submit the dispute with AkzoNobel to the Dutch Arbitration Institute. This has just been confirmed by AkzoNobel. Yesterday, Watersport TV had already reported that the sail soup might end up on a lawsuit / arbitration case. The lawyer of Tienpont had AkzoNobel set an ultimatum to respond to a number of requirements and conditions. AkzoNobel has entered into cooperation with STEAM, Simeon Tienpont's management office in good faith and we acted in good faith. We regret that STEAM took this step after committed itself to breach of contract. We trust in our approach. It is now a matter for the arbiter, "said AkzoNobel spokesman Peter van Boesschoten. At the request of Watersport TV at Tienpont and his counsel for an explanation has not yet been answered. My take on it: There probably was an arbitration clause in the contract. No idea how quickly they will work, and at this point that does not really matter anymore. The "good faith" does not sound very confident, but that may be a legal term. My guess is both parties will be found at fault and AkzoNoble will have to pay any outstanding debts plus a reasonable amount of damages. But dunno really, we'll see.
  9. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    I didn't see the chicken, so Rimas conserved energy for 139 days, and he is right on the spot now, in tip top condition. R u Jouleas ?
  10. VOR 2017-18

    Well, it was reported here that the guru of Dutch sport sponsering clearly put the blame on AkzoNobel. So may be you are wrong ! Actually, we all acknowledge that it is a clusterfuck, so the proof is in the pudding...
  11. Rimas recurring rescue

    How does one put a whole thread on IGNORE, please ?
  12. lost at sea?

    After reading half of the first sentence I know its him again, Brian Whitbread Hungcock. And I keep reading just to confirm its another masturbating piece of long winded history drivel. Does anybody know how to put someone on the front page on IGNORE ?
  13. VOR 2017-18

    Exactly, not yet anyway. Perfect google translate from zeilhelden.nl "liveblog": October 17th Angela is not quite right, says AkzoNobel spokesman. "There is no lawsuit because no summons. But we have received a letter from Steam Ocean with a claim and an ultimatum. "No details are released about the claim or the ultimatum.
  14. VOR 2017-18

    Try a Double Dutch with Schakel and Me (I speake Dutch not much).