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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Huh? New Sunfish Class?

    ISCA is right in fighting a takeover of what is really their intellectual property - it is the class association that has built the value into the letters ISCA, why should they give it over to a builder? And why does the builder care about class 41 trademarks in the first place when their business is building and selling boats, not organizing events? The trademarks for building and selling boats are independent of those for organizing and running events so there has never been any conflict - until now. The reality can be found in the class rules by the two opposing organizations -- take a look for yourself. In the LP version of the rules they have added a paragraph which explicitly gives them the right to change the boat "provided it has no impact on the performance of the boat". This does not appear in the ISCA class rules. How do you measure whether a change has an impact on performance? Who decides if there is an impact on performance? How do you handle a series of changes that impact performance? A real class association would have a committee of sailors (class officials) and builders who would evaluate a proposed change BEFORE the change was allowed. LP wants a system where they push changes out based on their idea of what is a good change. Since they have such a good track record over the past decade on these things perhaps the sailors should simply trust them?
  2. Huh? New Sunfish Class?

    I vote for hostile takeover. Replacing an organization run by sailors for sailors with one run by the builder for the builder doesn't sound like an amiable transition in governance to me. The new class rules spell it out pretty clearly - the builder is free to make changes to the boat at will. IF the changes impact performance then they will get the approval of the class. Two problems here: 1) how can this particular builder be trusted to know what changes impact performance? 2) who is now running the class "organization", essentially builders representatives?
  3. Huh? New Sunfish Class?

    the second link at https://sunfishclass.net/news/ probably tells you everything you need to know
  4. Huh? New Sunfish Class?

    The old one was not good enough?