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  1. The trolley design I am in for is exactly as pictured by Dex, above. See picture here... Looks the same save for color. There is some sand at one of the beaches from which I will launch, but it is hard-packed New England lake sand, not loose beach sand. So no problem carting it over that surface. Like so many lakes in Northeast, the packed sand gives way to a mucky kind of bottom, so it remains to be seen what the recovery is going to look like there. At another location... Lake Champlain in Vermont... the beach is a "shale" beach which means loads of rocks of odd shapes and sizes, many pretty flat, giving way to rocks and hard sand. That should be fun with these tires. I am considering getting some of the larger beach tires and using them as and when needed. I guess we will see. The prospect of changing out tires to fit the occasion is something I need to work through. Good news is that I will probably sail most of the time at a Yacht Club which has both a concrete ramp and a lift... so there is that... woof!
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    Plastic Fantastic

    Looking to purchase some form of "plastic fantastic." Good example would be Laser Vago or any of a number of Topaz boats. In one instance, a manufacturer seems to have a boat in stock near me, but no trailers. They say that the trailers are no longer being made and even if I was to get one, I'd have to get it shipped from UK and converted to DOT. I have also seen a Vago at a substantial distance from me that also does not come with a trailer. The advice from both has been that as long as the bunks are large enough, the boat will not be damaged by sitting on such a trailer. I was under the impression that these boats needed to be supported under the gunwales by a trolley and that the trolley was then loaded onto a road base. The idea being that the boat would not be deformed by the hull sitting on bunks or rollers. I am certain some of you have direct experience with these boats and I'd love to hear how I should be thinking of this. I can purchase a new boat with proper road-base and trailer... I'd love to save about half by buying used. But if in the end, I am going to cause damage to the boat because I cannot purchase the proper road base, then I'll probably bite the bullet so as to keep the boat properly. Thanks in advance.
  3. @Dex... brilliant. Really, like the idea of being able to arrest backward motion. @sailhmb... yes, been looking at electric winches. Strap around a tree and an electric or even a drill winch would make short work of it. @Dart96... thanks, this is a practical approach. I am in Northeast US. There is ice on my lake so season is over. Location is shuttered as well, so hard to get over there though i sent a request to access it to have a look in light of all said here. I agree with your approach and it is kind of my prefered method of operating. I am tempted to extend it a little further and say that i could just go ahead and get myself in trouble and find my way clear. I always do. Heh. Quad is probably a notch more than i can go, but portable electric winch? No problem. Have other uses for that anyway. You are right that until i size it all up as a practical issue at the location, the actual solution may not present. I do agree i am in for wider, low pressure tyres, but will now also consider multiple tyres. The cost there is not concerning... The slight twist on the getting in trouble method would be to go down one increment in size which actually represents an almost 100 pound reduction in weight. But it also means fewer crew, a smaller, less capable boat, slower overall, and an almost marginal weight capacity with crew. Don't relish that. My lake is small but once a year for two glorious weeks, i will get to sail on Lake Champlain, and i'm going to want the extra size and capacity at that point... Thanks guys! Really appreciate all of the obvious good will.
  4. Agreed... come-along too slow.
  5. @Kenny Dumas - yes, a good ratchet device would be a come-along... like so: https://tinyurl.com/yaq5mtya Have used these to pull wire for fences (tighten wire, then staple to post; also have used them to lift engines from cars... the one above is good for 3 tons. A bit much, but it has 18 feet of cable and so might pull boat from water in one go. Most have much shorter cables. A strong tree to anchor the winch, a good long length of winch rope and off you go. There are plenty of trees in the area where I need to haul. I'll go over there and look at it with this in mind. Might actually do it if I cannot manage a clean pull. @Locus - Thanks... this gives me some heart. 505 has a hull weight of 281 lbs. so a little more than 300 all up. I like the idea of putting a temporary either anchor or mooring in the water to hold the boat while storing/retrieving the dolly. That part does not concern me too much. All - awesome suggestions and help... if anyone else has direct experience with largish dinghies on either packed sand or boat ramps, would love to hear your thoughts! Thanks.
  6. Thanks Dart96... In my case, 300 lbs is "all up." Hull weight is a little over 240 lbs. So yes, 340-ish with the trolley. Tackle and an eye an interesting idea. Not sure I could get that cleared there. Someone invariably would whack themselves on it. I am beginning to despair a little of this. Perhaps I should consider something a little more like a Laser 2. Already discounted to Wayfarer on account of weight, but beginning to think 300 is too much. Hard to know. Wish I could try it out at this location, but that's not going to happen. Woofy
  7. Thanks to all for responses. There are some good ideas as well as some nice confidence building bits here. I really AM worried about the hauling part - noted by IPLore and dogwatch. Am most concerned about hauling 300 pounds out up a possibly slippery ramp (there are small "steps" for purchase) or potentially through a somewhat muddy bottom to the packed sand. Likely will need to purchase large low pressure tires and haul it from the beach side. Once on the packed sand, it is a fairly easy roll to the dinghy parking area. This URL shows the area. https://tinyurl.com/y8ta3e25 To the left of the pontoon boat is where boats are launched from the beach. The parking area for dinghies is up on the grassy area further to the left, beyond the wall and picnic table... You can see that there is a gravel curtain drain that I would have to negotiate, but overall not too bad. Again... for me the issue will be mostly in hauling a 300 pound boat out of the water on a dolly in this area. Worried about mud/muck. The boat ramp is not visible nor could I find pictures. It is way over to the left, and frankly I think I am going to go look at it tonight if I can get permission.
  8. Have a lot of experience with Sunfish and Lasers. Piece of cake launching and recovering. Now I am looking into a much larger boat - same basic length 14-15 feet, but hull weight of up to 300 pounds. I am concerned about launch and recovery, as I will often be on my own with some occasional help from teens. I will be keeping the boat on a dolly at a lake club. Location is new to me. There is an area of grass that is relatively flat out on a point. There is a concrete boat launch going in. Not too steep. Grassy area max 2 feet above the lake. I imaging the launch apron might be a little slippery, but have not had a chance to test it. A ways off, perhaps 150 to 200 feet down the point is a narrow sand area that is often used by people to launch and recover. Getting down/up from the grass area should be relatively easy since it is a very gradual slope from the grass area to the sandy beach. Sand is well packed and very hard. This is more likely where I will launch as I can launch and then beach to rig the boat. Question really is then what is the maximum weight/size boat that I could practically handle by myself in such circumstances. I am 6 foot, 200 lbs and fit though I am a bit older. I really don't mind a little workout, and there is no deep, loose sand. Dolly will be of British type. Could see getting larger tyres if advisable. At this point I am just concerned about getting too much boat and not being able to handle it going in and out. Getting a mooring is a very real option, but I will prefer to dry sail this boat if at all possible. I literally scoured the web looking for this information and it really is not much discussed. Anything you can tell me would be very helpful. Thank you.