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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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  1. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    The big door on the bottom...
  2. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Several times this cel antenna issue has come up. She was trying to point out that a cel phone won't work without an antenna - just like here vhf won't work without an antenna. A strange reference these days because cel phone antennas are internal now.
  3. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Did you, or did you not claim to have increased your boats draft by two feet?
  4. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    I disagree, we will get some true words but it will be impossible to identify them. She has trouble answering direct questions without making a joke or attaching a story first. Kind of like arguing with one of my kids. They will focus on and expand a small detail that you got wrong (because decoding what they say can be very difficult and prone to errors) while ignoring the the bigger questions. I think, and she has pretty much indirectly confirmed during Clean's interview, that she is a grossly incompetent sailor. She got spooked by things that were completely benign, probably "fixing" some which then made the situation worse. She comes up with reasons why things are happening that are just bizarre. Like the sharks' living room, dragon's triangle and sea animals looking after her welfare. She sees the pulpit slightly bent (looks fine to me in the video) and calls it "taken out". Same with the lifelines which she said were ripped out, but you can see them in the video and they look fine - there are many other examples. From what I can tell she was afraid to raise the main fully because there was some rigging making noise. Fair enough, that is a decent reason. The rest of the story is her making weird decisions, most of which come from not understanding the world around her "we're not sure if all typhoons are tsunamis". So many times she references what someone has told her. She learns from anecdotes and does not seem to feel the need to pursue the issue any further - but considers herself competent and empowered. She's a poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect.
  5. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Yes. Jen is a story teller. As she says, she is living the fantasy. That means that her experiences must be very special, if they weren't it wouldn't be a fantasy life now would it?
  6. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Before the Navy showed up, before any sailor had set foot on your boat to assess the damage your own video has you saying "this is all of our stuff we are taking with us to the Navy".
  7. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Why did you say that you increased the draft of your boat by two feet - and used that as a reason why you couldn't get into safe harbors? Having someone else at the helm does not relieve you of responsibility for crashing your own boat. How stoned were you during Clean's interview? What is the real reason that you didn't stop in Kiribati? You have given several answers - boat too big (it isn't - by a long shot), denied entry (not believable), didn't want to go in at night (nonsensical - just wait till the next day) and some other reason concerning something with shipwreck in the name. How do you account for being five months at sea if you weren't drifting for a large portion (majority) of that time? In that amount of time you could have covered over ten thousand miles averaging less than 3 kts. Why did you say nice things about the people on the fishing boat that tried to help you, then later accuse them of wanting to murder/rape you?