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    Arizona
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    Off Shore Cruising, Stugeron, Endurance, Lashing the jib sheet to the tiller. Analog stuff.
  1. Single-handed cruising options

    @Steam Flyer, @WGWarburton, Thanks for the replies, this is why I'm here. SF, I think I must have read your comment on the other thread about it. I saw mention of the sledding. I tried that in my kayak once. I'll keep it under consideration. W, no worries. I think we have CL-16s and Wayfarers. After reading Ocean Crossing Wayfarer in Jan, I was like, "Why not just get a wayfarer instead of a wanderer?" They seem like solid boats, and as Frank Dye proved, the Wayfarer can be put through a lot. These are some friends I work for on occasion and the boat was taking up space in their shop. Ideally I think an Etchells is what I'm going for, something that, if need be, can sail upwind in heavier than usual weather. I appreciate the input, and I think the greatest piece is not knowing how it is holding me back because it's such a manatee. Likely won't be dry rolling or roll tacking with it. I would like to build an open dinghy off an established platform that can handle things like the trans-superior, or offshore conditions. My current budget, however, is $0. If anything, the Pintail is a step above boatless, and learning it's idiosyncrasies will help prepare me for when I move to something better-suited. I always love a good challenge. Sounds like I have a unique one. And I agree, once I actually looked at the hull, you can see how stubby the bow is, how high the freeboard is, how wide the beam is... and the trailer, no registration nor title. So right now, whatever boat is on it can't go down the road here. W, my take on an Etchells/Soling over a W/W is their upwind performance. Or perceived performance. We sat beside one at anchor for a month and a half in West Palm Beach, FL. I just got done with a 3,000nm sail from Connecticut to Puerto Rico, even did a little dinghy sailing/rowing. I have a lot of respect for the experience. Here, though, it would seem some inexperience is also a benefit. I'll make sure not to throw too much money into this hole in the water before I realize the futility. I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks, jf
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    @WGWarburton, thanks. I'd say the wanderer is a bit small, but, I was just given am MFG Pintail. 14' loa, 6' beam. 122sf sail area... It has potential. It's something to start with, actually, titling and registering boat and trailer are the starting points. I want to get her in the water this summer, feel out the sail plan, and see about swapping mast/boom, adding a bow sprit, rigging a spinnaker, beefing the rig, adding a lead bulb to the keel, adding a float to the mast, adding water tight storage/bouyancy, repainting, re-rigging, etc. I had to turn down a potential NWP offer, and crewing a fishing boat un AK. Might wind up out in CO this summer working at 10,000', then maybe Antarctica Oct-April, maybe. So, time is limited and the budget is still pretty tight. Been working like a dog, but only part time. Things are slowly falling into place. Anyone ever sailed an MFG Pintail? She looks broad and squatty but stable. Adding a bulb to the 4' steel centerboard and reinforcing the casw might be an order. It definitely needs sanded, filled, repainted, and a nice gelcoat. The coring should be solid, but I'll check it closer.
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    Update: Back from PR. Dreaming big, but after 5 months and little work, paying off my $400 credit card bill is even a challenge. I found an etchells, disassembled and on a trailer for under $2k, but I haven't heard back. The trip to PR helped confirm a lot of my ideas. 1600nm to windward wasn't terrible. We were heeling 15-30* most of the way, but we never saw gusts above 25. I had 3am-6am on watch and often was so bored I'd hand steer just to stay awake. Bioluminescent plankton almost the whole way. Maybe 12hrs of rain in 12 days. I'm looking at grants, and other options. I hate sitting at anchor. It's a waste of time and money. I get the liveaboard life, but it's not practical for me. Hopefully I can get something, even if it's borrowed, and sail the bay or lake erie this summer, maybe go out around and up to NYC. Ideally looking at the Barthels next summer, but I've gotta find out if the race committee will even let an open boat into the race. If not, either run it as a bandit or go offshore. Etchells is going to need heavy modding, it seems. Deeper keel, slung for blue water. Over-engineered rigging. Water tight buoyancy chambers, maybe open up the transom. It's windward capacity is the big draw. My friend's pearson did surprisingly well. With a decent breeze we could make 7.5kts holding 30* to windward. Some pounding, always heeled, but we made Culebra. 900mi on one tack, 6 days. I got a potential offer to crew Liverpool to Anchorage this summer, or to crew a fishing boat up in AK but had to turn both down. Trying to keep my schedule free and open, but that's sort of expensive.
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    Just now getting caught up. @Steam Flyer, agreed... I'm sitting at anchord going on 4 weeks. My friend and I have different ideas of sailing. He's the captain and has more "experience" but basically won't sail if we have a forecast gusting over 40. It seems almost impossible to sail WPB to PR without hitting 40 sustained, and it's mostly upwind, even with a weather window. He was encouraging me to do pay-to-play racing/training because "that's how you get experience." I've really shifted towards an etchells at this point. I like centerboards but 70* to wind and 30' loa... I need practice more than anything. If and when I get my own, ill sail it to feel it out, then modify it for purpose, then make sure I practice being good and miserable before I set off on anything. Premises I've gathered for this type of "sailing" 1, you will encounter winds Force 8 or higher. 2, reefing and self-steering are essential 3, you will capsize, likely in the worst of conditions (summer cruise 1964) 4, it's totally feasible, just a different type of sailing. And miserable. But I prefer misery and adventure to sitting at anchor. And when you're alone, you can't get annoyed at other people or blame things on them. And you don't have to listen to mouth noises while they eat with headphones in. There was a free etch in SF if you sailed it locally...
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    @Svanen Thank you for the links, I'll have to check them out with the absurd amount of sitting at anchor I have to still look forward to. I finished Ocean Crossing Wayfarer which only fueled my ideas more. The idea of cruiser camping is nice, but I also am drawn to challenges like Everglades and Barthels. And then you have Chiles and Ant... @badpirate66 That sounds close to what I'm hoping to do. And my parents Golden would love it; he already loves motorcycle rides and the water. How well does your scot point to windward? From what I can find the Trans-Superior is mostly an upwind race, and sitting here in WPB we keep watching the Easterly Trades between us and Puerto Rico. There's a soling beside us, and although not a dinghy, is alluring. But I don't think it fits what I'm looking for. I'll check up on CL-16's. Hard not to throw down $500-$800 for something to cruise around in while we wait for our weather offshore. Finding work, and play til it comes. Many thanks.
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    @MisterMoon having done several EC's, are you in FL? I've got a day ashore tomorrow. Might have more than one. It snowed today. I've been rereading your replies, it'd be good to pick your brain more, better than googling.
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    Sorry for being broody.
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    @MisterMoon, I would have a PRB/EPIRB with other redundant survival and location systems, sure, but really, capsizing underway is a question of when not if with this type of sailing, and likely seas would be in excess of 15' (hypothetically)... Raven likely is way-overpowered. I think I saw one in VA, but I've no clue. Ocean Crossing Wayfarer, for the unacquainted, Frank Dye and one crew dead reckoned a wooden wayfarer from Scotland to Iceland, 650nm, over 11 days through 4 gales. That was in 1963. Supposedly two guys were trying to sail a Viper 640 across the pacific, couldn't find any info on it. Sat beacons are good if you want them to find a body for a "proper burial," but really, I try to practice not dying in my endeavors. I probably sound really arrogant about now, not being a "sailor," but a locator beacon won't save your life 500nm from land, or at least you shouldn't plan on it. I'm looking for a boat that isn't "enclosed," that is fairly bomb-proof, able to be single-handed (with practice and modifications), at least 15' LOA, preferrably a planing monohull, and costs between $500-$5,000 fully tuned-up. I've heard from a few people what I'd figured, sounds like a Wayfarer, or building one myself. Some solid leads and advice too. Sorry to come in and splash about asking what's a good dinghy for blue water sailing... I should have out right said, "I might do this eventually..." For now I'm stuck at anchor in FL. This gale just blew two boats ashore a quarter mi downwind.
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    @Rainbow Spirit, that is a situation you methodically rehearse avoiding. Even on my friends 42' pearson we tether in. You lose your boat at any point your best bet is probably to exhale and swim as far down as possible, then open wide... I'm a terrible swimmer, 200yds at best. Love the cold. @RKoch, @MisterMoon What about a Raven? At this rate, despite the drawbacks, an Albacore would fit my needs til I can either build a boat or buy a decent one that fits. I like the old Atlantic class boats, but I think a wayfarer is likely stretching it... I'll look into the EC and R2AK boats. I'm honestly contemplating the tri-lakes challenge. Got a friend getting married in Twin Cities in June and our other friend and I might drive out. He'd be good crew.
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    Curious thing, I was at a CCA luncheon, and the one couple had made 3-4 circumnavs. The wife wasn't accepted into the club until after they washed ashore in a storm off the Carolinas. A week later we rounded Montauk and I wasn't sure I could handle 4 days to VA. I'm not too proud to learn from failure, especially when my survival depends on it. A quote from one of my favorites (I don't actually read much), Deep Survival, by Laurence Gonzales: "The perfect adventure shouldn’t be that much more hazardous in a real sense than ordinary life, for that invisible rope that holds us here can always break. We can live a life of bored caution and die of cancer. Better to take the adventure, minimize the risks, get the information, and then go forward in the knowledge that we’ve done everything we can..."
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    @Dart96 noted. Glass mk2 sounds about ideal for this. As for cats, there seems to be a strong bias against multi-hulls. For some reason I'm envisioning a planing dinghy, and the wayfarer, equipped with a roller reefing main, and maybe furling jib (hanks provide the advantage of interchangability, likely less necessary on a wayfarer). Perhaps my neighbors albacore is a suitable option for training. I long to be underway. Thank you all for the input.
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    Et al, @Dart96, @Dex Sawash, @Steam Flyer, @xonk1: Yea though extended offshore dinghy cruising sounds miserable, that be my intention. The dangers permitting, should be mitigated by expecting the worst, which, if I may ask yet another question, what really is the worst that could happen to a man at sea? I find the lines and spirit of the mini-transat boats to be more than agreeabe, save that d***** cabin. Why no cabin? I don't find it to be requisite, as of yet. The purpose of this boat and it's subsequent passages are to sail, and although a significant degree of misery be unavoidable, it is not likely to last a duration beyond the human will. This be not a pleasure cruise. True, for this current passage I am quite well provisioned with the romance novels to inspire necessary spirit--Ocean Crossing Wayfarer, Berserk, North to the Night, Storm Sailing... Now begins the ground work for the realization of true adventure, beyond the inception of its fantasy. There be little left ashore for me, save a means to reach the sea, and so I shall, forevermore, be one with thee when I can live among my dreams. I'll be finding my wayfarer and outfitting, and practicing, and perhaps I shall race on the Real Lake 2019 afore I set off. This is no more a suicide mission than to wake up in the morning. I bid you all adieu and a happy New Year. May your weathervanes fail and your auto helms die. Godspeed, XX
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    @thengling I saw a guy's post in a forum who said his 120lb wife could right one on her own, don't know the load, buoyancy, sails or weather though.
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    Thanks, too. Any insight into rigging, sailing, resources, dinghy cruising advice, and anecdotes are greatly welcome. Also, single-handing a wayfarer sounds like it could take a bit of practice and planning... suggestions?
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    @Dex Sawash @thengling, profile photo game on point. I'm hovering around 150. Eating vegan from FL to PR might put me under that, but not too far. I'll have to check about righting a capsized, loaded, sodden Wayfarer, especially in heavy seas. I'm thinking about making a second centerboard, heavier and longer... @bill4 noted. I'll keep my eyes open. I currently "live" in my parents basement in Central PA, but Superior isn't impossible, and there's Annapolis. I was thinking of sailing the Bay solo or with crew a few times, then running Erie to The Cottages and back, maybe Lake Ontario. I'm curious to try some longer "races," if this becomes a thing.