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  1. cremedelameme

    VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    w e a p o n s g r a d e a u t i s m Anarchy doesn't mean no rules. It means no state enforcing the rules by force. Groups of people are still welcome to agree among themselves and rope off spaces for things, and you won't last long in an anarchist society without some social grace. This thread is for talking about Leg 8. If you want to spit bile in a widow's face you can go to the VOR MOB thread. If you want to fight me irl on the finer points of what anarchy means you can go to PA.
  2. cremedelameme

    VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    You say that like a joke but I have friends on the competitive ballroom circuit who work as coaches and have it on good authority that Tony was working on swing dancing on the theory that the syncopated rhythms help with timing the waves and footing on the boat.
  3. cremedelameme

    VOR Man Overboard

    "At short range" Did you read the rest of the thread? Did you read the discussions with the other skippers? The estimated turnaround time is 45 minutes in those conditions. What short range? You can't solve every problem by throwing dollars at it. Technology isn't magic. A man is dead, his crewmates and family are grieving, and your science fiction is about as helpful as a marzipan dildo. Get fucked.
  4. cremedelameme

    VOR Man Overboard

    The point is that the only people left won't listen. See below. The technology is designed to increase the chance of saving a life. The amount it increases the chance depends on the conditions, and even in perfect conditions there's not a device on earth that can prevent all deaths. I'm sure you know this so this is the last I'll engage with you on the issue. I'm definitely not gonna debate the finer points of GPS operation in extreme conditions not only because we don't have the facts, but also because that debate would miss the point: technology is not a guarantee of survival and to think it is and start blaming crew (surviving and not) for the death is callous beyond all decency.
  5. cremedelameme

    VOR Man Overboard

    ITT: Trolls and ignoramuses who believe you can engineer around the fundamental physical limitations of radio versus saltwater. The swell was 6 meters, in a valley in an area with already low satellite coverage the constellation isn't visible even if the gps antenna is above water. Activate every fancy beacon you like, GPS doesn't work in radiopaque valleys and it never will because as much as Star Trek and living in a safe happy technological city with lots of wifi to supplement location accuracy make you think that a 'homing device' can magically pinpoint things rapidly it can't happen. Take a handheld Garmin into a steep 6m valley and see how many satellites it can see. Time how long it takes to get a position fix when you turn it on. The technology can help with recovery in an incident but it isn't magic and you cannot change the laws of physics captain.
  6. cremedelameme

    VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Regarding the spreaders maybe the VOR should call up expert spreader jury rigger Jen Appel for consultation, after all Sea Nymph's spreader looked pretty good when the fleet sailed by it on the previous leg!
  7. cremedelameme

    VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    I think it qualifies as a vessel not in command!
  8. cremedelameme

    VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    To elaborate (not for you but for the benefit of others): Salt water conducts electricity which makes it fairly radio opaque. If the MOB is in the trough and you're in a different trough it'll be hard to get signal. More than a few troughs and there's nothing. How fast do troughs add up? Well, traveling 20 knots means you cover ~600m in 1 minute. With a 30m stick and 6m swell your signal spends (6/(30/600)) = 120m below the level of the chop. You get some +/- as you go up and down, and as the MOB goes up and down, but most of the time you can't receive anything. Depending on the sea state, the satellite part of the MOB's PLB might not be able to help either, for the same reason. If the needed satellites have set below the horizon of the trough you're currently in then the beacon can't work. Technology isn't magic. It can increase the likelihood of survival in most cases, but it doesn't provide guarantees, and in some cases can't help much at all. It's easy to forget when you live your life within the box where that likelihood is 99.99999% but this race is not inside that box.
  9. cremedelameme

    VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    I'll cast my lot with the hopeful until an official update comes.
  10. cremedelameme

    laugh or cry?

    No, it's not rocket science. It's the basics of inferring facts from evidence. Insufficient evidence cannot imply anything. The inability to provide evidence one way or the other about the facts of a matter does not establish them. All you can say in the absence of evidence is that there is an absence of evidence, which is what the Jury did. This is a different ruling from the evidence supports denying Vestas redress; it leaves open the possibility that the hearing could be reopened if there was significant new evidence revealed.
  11. cremedelameme

    laugh or cry?

    This thread's pretty low quality. All you fuckwits seem to think that "insufficient evidence to grant redress" is the same as "conclusive evidence that redress is not appropriate". They're obviously different. The Jury said "with all that we've got available, we don't on the balance of probabilities know what the fuck happened". It's no judgement either way on the question of what fraction of the blame Vestas gets apportioned. More fuckwittery I've observed from several posters: The instance that the only acceptable definition of "adequate lookout" is "lookout that avoids a collision", and that if you collide then by definition your lookout was not adequate. That's disingenuous bollocks too. I'm too drunk to quote and considering the level of reading it takes to make these mistakes the people in the wrong won't know that I'm talking about them, but I guess I'll survive.
  12. cremedelameme

    Our racers don't drink enough

    When I was in college our student society ran a coffee stand (no fancy bullshit, drip coffee with cream and sugar and two kinds of doughnut) not for profit, with 75 cent coffee. The problem is we were making money, more than we could reinvest, and our nonprofit status was in jeopardy. So what did we do? We cut prices, naturally. Coffee was 48 cents in expense (labor + rent + etc + materials) per cup we had figured. There was no way we could earn more than we could spend with 50 cent coffee. The first semester with 50 cent coffee we had our most profitable semester in a long time. 50 cent coffee meant: one dollar got a coffee and a doughnut, or two coffees throughout the day, or coffee for you and a friend. It also got people in the door (cheapest on campus but the same quality). The lesson here can be applied to your club. Here is my suggestion: Offer racing skips pitchers for their crews at a no profit or at-small-cost rate (limit it, give each boat coupons for 1-3 pitchers per race with dates on them so it's a use it or lose it). Pitchers are essential here: the social aspect keeps people around long enough for their first few drinks to kick in. It also draws people in off their own boats. Turn up the volume on your sales, and you'll make it back to the black.
  13. cremedelameme

    laugh or cry?

    Wrong. The jury said there was insufficient evidence to grant redress. Very different from "no right". By submitting a valid request for redress to the protest desk before the time limit, or after the time limit but in appropriate circumstances to convince the Protest Committee to extend the time limit and consider your request valid. One typically uses a pen to write on a sheet of paper with special markings (a "protest form"), but I can imagine the shore team typed up something nice. A boat may always request redress; there is no requirement in the rules that she finish to do so. (Complete with RRS autistic bold) They are probably more party to the official hearings than we are and used that to inform their decision to request (or maybe just threw it in there to be in before the time limit???). However, not being in prison only means that they were cleared of criminal culpability in the incident. I'm not Chinese lawyer, so I don't know if that's a higher bar than a share of the fault or not, but I'll bet one internet point that it is. Also it's modern times LB update your troll card. The website should be fuck.me/go/i-love-this-place get hip.
  14. cremedelameme

    Vestas 11th Hour recovery

    Focusing on the race aspect of these boats is missing the point. These waters are regularly transited by commercial vessels at 20kts and poor fishermen get hit and killed by said commercial traffic regularly. The causes are well understood, and in aggregate are a combination of lax watch on the commercial vessels and a complete lack of lights, AIS, radar visibility and awareness of the rules of the road among the fishing fleet. See the report linked earlier about the details and recommendations to individual captains about which parts of the coast to avoid. Racing speed limits, special entry zones, escort boats, far offshore finishing lines, and the like won't stop the human tragedy of impoverished fishermen prioritizing profits over safety in order to feed their families; they'll just prevent the VOR from getting wrapped up with them. If you want to solve this problem you need to advocate for a global fishing industry that cares about labor rights and safety, and backs that care up with financial incentive.
  15. cremedelameme

    Vestas 11th Hour recovery

    Lawyers is too kind. They're Clouseau levels of incompetent with none of the genial charm.