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  1. Mambo Kings

    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    only after the first boat has finished.
  2. Mambo Kings

    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    This is coincidentally how the points look in the last 5 minutes. DF did indeed overtake Vestas and currently Brunel has drifted past Akzo. But the boats are assembling in the parking lot for a restart.
  3. Mambo Kings

    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Mapfre wants them next. Brunel would love to see Vestas recover a bit of pace, enough to get ahead of the red boats but not enough to catch yellow
  4. Mambo Kings

    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Dong has made the all important pass of Vestas. Akzo vs Brunel becomes a key battle.
  5. Mambo Kings

    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Akzo just faster, grinding out the distance mile after mile, hour after hour. Cummon Brunel.....pedal to the metal.
  6. Bingo. PHRF is about going out on the ocean (lake?) with some friends, racing around the cans against some friends, and then retiring to the bar with some friends. If you are obsessed with counting who won on more days then you are probably in the wrong fleet. However I think that Boston YC had the right idea with its Marblehead wednesday evening series. Each Wednesday, the boats in the first three places in each division get time taken off their handicap making it hard to win the following weds. The time penalty gradually erodes over three weeks until you are back at your original rating, unless you place again in which case your handicap is hit again. Do they still have this system?
  7. Mambo Kings

    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Two key elements to the scoring in the current tracker battle. 1. Akzo vs Brunel. If Brunel regains the lead then it is all on for 2nd with Brunel only 2 points behind the red boats and 9 points ahead of Akzo. If Akzo maintains the lead over Brunel then it will all be on for 3rd with Brunel only 3 points ahead of Akzo. 2. DF vs Vestas. If DF overhauls Vestas but Mapfre does not, then DF has a 3 point lead going into the last two legs, Of course everything changes at the high...but fun to speculate.
  8. Mambo Kings

    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    If they finish in the current order(and alllowing that Dongfeng still holds bonus point for fastest elapsed time): Has anyone won the Whitbread or the Volvo without winning a single leg?
  9. Mambo Kings

    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Clogs on fire!
  10. Portsmouth....but unfortunately the data is limited to OD. Its possible to convert a base rating but the local fleet would have to build its own data. Fun project for the local mathematician.
  11. Mambo Kings

    Chiles vs Hancock on what is an "Open Boat"

    So British: "Men wanted for hazardous journey. Safe return doubtful....honour and recognition in case of success."
  12. Mambo Kings

    Chiles vs Hancock on what is an "Open Boat"

    All this arguing is diminishing Ant Stewart's incredible achievement. He did not care if Zulu Dawn was defined as an open boat by the Guinness book or records or not. He did it for the challenge......and what an incredible human challenge it was. One that very few , if any of us, can contemplate. I doubt that Ernest Shackleton would have cared a fig for whether Webb Chiles or Brian Hancock define the James Caird as an open boat or not. (likely he would have found the discussion silly) It remains one of the greatest voyages of survival of all time. His achievement was to save 22 lives in the most improbable journey imaginable. I will just say this.....if someone asked me to sail around the world in Zulu Dawn or to traverse the Southern Ocean in a beefed up open wooden life answer in both cases would be "In an open boat like that? You have got to be kidding?"
  13. Some things never change.......this problem existed even before sport boats. I remember doing the Wednesday night PHRF series in Boston Harbor out of Constitution Marina about 25 + years ago. We were a group of youngsters with a J22. We were dirt keen and showed up every Wednesday (or was it was a long time ago). We could only afford elderly sails but everything else we could do, we did. We came down early, dived on the hull. We roll tacked on every puff. Squeezed forward in the light and hiked like hell in the puffs. About 3/4 through the series we realized we were in hot contention versus boats many times our size. As long as we had some light and variable days in tide, we could win the whole shebang. Light followed by big puffs allowed the J22 to sail much better than her rating. When it was medium consistent breeze, we would be waterlined to death. We could be either first or last depending on the wind conditions. Lady luck smiled on us and on the last day of the summer long series, going in 3 points off first place..... it was one of the Boston evenings when the breeze was barely coming down to the water execpt between buildings where there were little harbor hurricanes. We put the necessary points between the leading boats and went off to a pub in Charlestown to celebrate. The big fancy awards dinner came about a week later. Somehow we managed to scrape together a blazer for each of us and we could not wait to have our picture taken with the big fancy trophy. It was a bit of a shocker when our competition was announced the winner because AFTER THE SEASON WAS OVER and the scores all in, the committee decided to split out the J22s (4 boats) as a separate class. We got a nice little glass and the owner of a much larger boat got his name on the trophy. I dont know if any of you know Jack Carney, long time dockmaster at Corinthian YC and respected yachtie. But back then he was much younger and more emotional and he was my bowman. Half Irish and Half Spanish was a ...ahem...sensitive combination in his youth reinforced by a couple of cocktails and anticipation of the trophy. He strode up to the podium and made his views known! It was sooooo good, it was almost worth missing the trophy. Gawd I loved Jack.
  14. Mambo Kings

    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    No way they finish in the current order on the tracker ....but if they did: Top three reverse and its all on ! If Northern group lose out but Mapfre overhauled SHKS and we add in DFG's extra point for elapsed time, then the standings would be a dead tie between all three top boats with 57 points each!!!!!!!!
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    The Future of One Design

    Jim describes the two most common models: 1. Class controlled. One design specification controlled via defined measurement. 2. Builder controlled . One design specification obtained by SMOD (Single Manufacturer One Design) In the Laser Class, there are 2 manufacturers but they share an identical build book. There is a third model. Class Controlled SMOD. The Viper 640 is an example of the "close encounter of the third kind" The owner members of the Class Association own and control the IP. They appoint the builder and approve sailmakers. Instead of allowing builders to work within rules to build the fastest boat that they can, the Viper class members appointed a single builder working from a single build book with a quality/cost/price objective. We are not the only class of the third kind, but as feedback we can tell you that it works very well. Others have spoken at length about the problems that Builder controlled SMOD classes have experienced like the Laser, Sunfish, RS Elite, Vanguard 15 etc. (i) Legal fights with the builder. (ii) No sanction for poor service . The customer can complain but not punish the builder by taking their business elsewhere(iii) Monopoly or duopoly pricing. (iv) Changes made to the boat and design without consulting class members. (v) The builder can suspend production at will if not enough volume. But multi-builder approach also has its own problems:- (i) One Design. Boats from different builders differ, each seeking to provide a faster mousetrap. (ii) Price. Owners always want the fastest boat. Nobody wants to save a few thousand dollars and come last. Builders seek to build the fastest boat irrespective of cost. (iii) Class promotion falls off a cliff from builders. Multi builders do not like to subsidize class promotion. The small builder doesnt feel like paying more than his fair share. The dominant builder does not want to subsidize price competition. The third approach needs some business skills within the class organization but it can run very well.