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    multihull boats but also America's Cup
    I own 2 beachcats 5.5 and 6.0

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  1. MN3

    Hobie 16 Rebuild

    1 comment on paint. I have battleship grey imron on my 6.0 it is so hot i can't sit on it in the summer (fl) sun every scratch acts like an etch-a-sketch and you can see the white gelcoat under it - this is not just on the bottom (actually my bottoms are better than other spots since i use beach wheels and pool noodles on the hulls to keep it off the sand), but everywhere anything that can scratch it, it does Also stress cracks on the bows look terrible (from either hull pressure while the bows dive, or from the spin, or from the anchor lines that are attached to the bows). also stress cracks on the decks by the front beam (lots of forces there) While it looked amazing at first, and is easy to keep clean and shines up with a fresh coat of nu-finish, i would never do it again Lastly, the imron used can't be wet sanded, and i would have to hire a painter to do any repairs (i don't have the equipment nor skills) so i am stuck with scratches, cracks,, and a hot boat that i can't even sit on in the summer.
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    Hobie 16 Rebuild

    you sell more boats when owners break their boats by bad behavior
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    Family Freindly Beach Cat

    Side note: I am not / was not offended - and i was not "suggesting" you should get a powered boat I was conveying my experience with island camping and specifically said "i found. camping via a catamaran as not very safe for me and my dog" YMMV
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    Family Freindly Beach Cat

    TBW - No you didn't You asked a very broad and open ended question "Wondering what some of the models of beach cats are that would be good for 2 adults, 2 small children and maybe a bit of camping gear. " If your gonna give crap out about the way people answer your questions, and you are looking for generic responses like "buy anything big and cheap". i will keep my experiences to my self when you ask in the future
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    Family Freindly Beach Cat

    Wings give extra hardware to be careful near for sure - all parts of a boat can be dangerous for little kids fingers, and adults as well Wings can be dangerous in a capsize and in a pitch pole and in a sudden stop (catch a crab trap float, or hit a sand or other) so can booms, hulls, lines, and foils and anything else that can be fallen into, onto and tangled in Yes wings are in-line so they are extra hazardous in a violent capsize (i say violent because a "regular" capsize should give people enough heads up to be hanging on and ready for it) all the more reason to not have little kids on a beach cat unless there is someone dedicated to protecting them at all times and even then - what happens if that adult is hurt? what if there is a capsize and 2 kids fall off - how does 1 adult care for them? I do not support bringing kids who can't swim on board really any vessel with any chance of capsize I have had minors on my cat that were not well behaved. We turned around and went back to sure - i can't have crew onboard that wont listen to me As someone who has been island camping now for 12 years in a row, with lots of friends. I can't see a family being comfortable on a small cat with gear - nor does it sound safe if the weather pics up As i mentioned above, i found. camping via a catamaran as not very safe for me and my dog. Overweight and gear everywhere is not a safe way to sail. So much so i stopped doing it and purchased a small v-bow (14') that can handle the gear and my dog
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    Family Freindly Beach Cat

    OP said "Wondering what some of the models of beach cats are that would be good for 2 adults, 2 small children and maybe a bit of camping gear. On the more affordable end of the spectrum." 460, Nacra 500 gonna hold 4 people and camping gear? new 570 is 15k ish? any of these models have wings? that's why i didn't recommend any of these boats
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    Family Freindly Beach Cat

    THAT is a wet boat - Very fast and fun for sure but one of the wetter cats i have been on I have sailed the 17 and 19 (some 19's have boards - not all - same exact hull shape with and without) the tramp of a sc17 is not that big unless you have a front tramp - still a great boat for sure
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    Family Freindly Beach Cat

    I sailed as crew yesterday on a mystere 6.0 and didn't get a drop of water on me in 8 -12 knots (nice day out) getting wet on a beachcat has lots of variables... make/model, wings vs no wings, water conditions, skipper skills some cats are much wetter than others - and if you have wings ... it's a non issue Side note: Many locations on the water rent getaways - to the OP - perhaps you can rent one prior to making a final decision
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    Family Freindly Beach Cat

    I would say having dagger boards may not be optimal for a family boat. sure it can work but it is another item that can cause injury in a bow stuff or capsize and f18 boards and rudders are very sharp too - i would avoid them if at all possible and is why i own 2 boats with centerboards
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    Family Freindly Beach Cat

    My 6.0 is for sale and is cheaper will sell with the wings for $5.500 https://www.thebeachcats.com/classifieds/catamarans-for-sale/p15090-custom-mystere-6-0.html
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    Family Freindly Beach Cat

    8k? Is that with a friendly discount? It is listed for 9k Seems like a pretty cool boat - wonder how well it tracks with those micro centerboards
  12. MN3

    Family Freindly Beach Cat

    from my reading those are molded into the hull - there is no removal without cutting it out. there is drainage that drains icewater out under the tramp
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    Family Freindly Beach Cat

    I would guess the reasons are: leaks, weak structurally, can break when stepped on, the screw on ones get jammed up with salt, dirt and can freeze up. and people probably lose all sorts of stuff in the hulls without any way to get it back. I have found several objects in my hulls when i took the deck's off to replace bow / side-stay tangs. I added a large square access port to my 5.5 years ago. while it is very nice to have the storage, I wish i didn't. over time the seal has failed. the lid is now loose and i fear in a capsize it will allow water to pour in. Not to mention i fear it may be the point of failure when the boat meets it's maker. My 6.0 previous owner added one too - same results. poor fit over time, not water tight
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    Family Freindly Beach Cat

    I love g-cats and have sailed with G-cat's designer/owner (Hans G) for the past dozen years (that's him below). the issue is the total lack of parts and support for this boat. if you break a rudder or casting - you are on your own to fabricate one or hunt down a used one - and they made several versions - no telling if it will work Also the boat is a bit twitchy and prone to pitchpole (i've been swimming a few times while sailing on g-cats for these reasons)
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    Family Freindly Beach Cat

    "90 pounds heavier than my Prindle," With beach wheels it shouldn't be an issue at all " For example, the Getaway has decent sized hatches in the hull for camping gear." pretty sure those 5" hatches are actually coolers. not all that much room for gear but some. (this is from online research, not first hand exp)