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I never understood why quarantine was not paid for by the travelers.

Going to see you all on other threads. This one, for me, is like biting an ice cube with a cracked tooth. Take care, whatever that means to you.

The impossibility of reaching common ground on this is why the virus will keep winning until there is a vaccine or vaccines. Then maybe we'll do better with the next virus. See you all in other threads this one is like biting on an ice cube with a cracked tooth

Nick Cordero died at age 41 after 95 days in the hospital. https://people.com/?p=7802900&preview=true&preview_id=7802900

That's why everyone is asked to wear a mask since we don't know if we have it and that is how we protect each other. #excepttrump My mask protects you, yours protects me. Cloth protects against spew droplets. In the US we have shortages of n95 k95 so do the best we can against droplets. Aerosols we are stuck with ventilation and not being inside in crowds. Except in NZ where they are pretty much covid free and whining how they got that way. Nick Cordero died at 41 after 95 days in the hospital. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nick-cordero-dead-bullets-broadway-waitress-actor-was-41-1301841

Maybe S+S is part of the financial/managerial improprieties alleged to have been done by AC event mgmt?

Maybe when Bill Gates and Oxford and big pharma get some vaccines we'll give you a break on the $35. If you cough up for the flu shot. Seems more and more to me that your view is predicated on a dislike of how government resources are allocated. And on a view of "hardy stock" who take care and don't slide into "preexisting conditions" where they get what they deserve. Like having type A blood. That's a real moral failing, type A blood. Lock 'em up. You remind me of a #former# family friend who claims to be libertarian but bizarrely does not grasp externalities. (Economic libertarians do.) Just like every Trumper fell back on "what about her emails" in 2016, old Bob in NH goes on "what about those excess ventilators they made." Well, maybe not any more, they went to TX and AZ where they are on the verge of triaging ICU patients.

Not about life and needless death and destruction. Don't consider that entertaining to entertain. Reminds me of Vietnam. First shitshow I remember. So does Kayleigh McEnany. I am very angry. Getting over that is not the right thing.

Science marches on since 1900. Not going to take 60 years.

Oh, guess I don't like you better. Had not realized you shared his views. If you know them and have not devastated his selective logic, you must agree with his thrust. Oh well. Don't wear a mask. Contribute to his herd immunity bandwagon. But actually, SGP could have team logo masks. Tell RC. You can have my cut.

Polio is here but vaccines mostly work. I remember the summer lockdowns of no pool, no beach, no movies in summer polio season. The fear seeing kids in braces and iron lungs during March of Dimes solicitations. Acting accordingly meant vaccine not resignation. Smallpox? Vaccines. In a freezer somewhere. I do not believe we are going to be wearing masks on planes with no meal service forever. I do not believe I will never get a mani pedi or hair appointment. I do not believe I will never eat in a restaurant again or go to a football or baseball game or play or concert. Those are all economic sectors btw, jobs. #BecauseScience

#2042 @hawke when I say "we" I mean my fellow country dwellers. In Amurrica where we are #1 cuz we exceptional. I am in the US. Who cares what happened in NZ you are alive and healthy and whining. We are more interesting. We are dropping like flies, swarming like locusts bellowing about First Amendment Rights where no mask=speech.

Indeed. Face it, once enough bodies start piling up in refrigerator trucks (NYC), people for some reason feel less inclined to spend on mass travel, entertainment, personal services, dining among strangers. They hold onto cash. Businesses that pivoted or were no-touch did fairly well, like tech companies.

There's a study out of the US says thousands more died because the lockdowns were a week late. AND BTW our "lockdowns" were not very rigorous. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-distancing-deaths.html The thing was all over the place before we knew it was here. Japanese wear masks for colds. And covid.

And maybe we are learning a lot more than some small formerly locked down countries about what happens when you open up with no real rules. BTW, it's the under 50s that are filling up hospital beds now. They didn't think it was their problem. And BTW if public schools can't open the parents that rely on them for childcare can't work. Usually that means youngish mom quits working. That's super for the economy, NOT! Try to think before parroting some more "poor us we had excess economic hardship because of how my government overdid corona precautions." Try coming to TX, FL, AZ, any states that got off easy in the spring, opened up no rules just right and see how that works for you! They thought because economy, because jobs and it bit them in the ass. Former death zones do not have rising cases we know it's real, not just a hoaxy flu. And maybe covid19 will one day be as with us and dangerous as polio. Or smallpox. And the next mean virus might not run the course of this one