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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. BS said: "It is your boats one finds in marinas, rarely leaving, while the dreamers on them, give up decades of cruising time, to go to work to pay for your assumption that they all have endless supplies of money ( to dump in your pocket),and it is mine which actually get out cruising,as a full time, way of life , far more often. Search Silas Crosby , Tagish, Pacific Yachting's story about Winston's NW passage trip, Don Shores book "Around the World on Viski ", Len Sherman's book 'Arctic Oddysey" , George Hone's book "The NW Passage on Ten Dollars a Day " and the Sail magazine article "When Kim Rowed Over." All prove you to be a pathelogical liar. Never had an offset hatch go under/ Do you take that to mean it cant happen, even tho there is nowhere near enough buoyancy on that side to prevent it. My clients prefer design which doesn't depend on that much sheer luck." Gotta love the "endless supplies of money" bit. As I recall, Bob's royalties for the CT 54 were about the same as a set of BS plans. So Brent was dumping the same amount in his pocket as Bob. But Bob drew more plans and grew his business. Brent stayed "semi-retired" and failed to evolve. As to the alleged Brent boat book cites, how do any of them prove Bob lied about anything?
  2. Sooo.... Are you the pot or the kettle, Mr. hypocrite. If Bob's reputation were damaged, why do brokers trip over themselves to put his name on boats he didn't design? He seems pretty busy these days.
  3. Oh, that's rich. Jim Jones comparison. Can you cite examples of people caught by surprise so bad that they had no time to close the hatches and boats sank for that reason? Sudden knockdowns with no hint it could get nasty? Offset hatches and companionways have successfully plied the waters of this planet for centuries. I worked on a halibut schooner in the Bering Sea and Gulf of Alaska for years. Both our companion ways were offset. 80-100 kt winds, 50' confused seas. No problem. It was built in 1923. It was t-boned by a frieghter in WWII and repaired. All wood.
  4. What are you implying, BS?
  5. I like that.
  6. Horseshit. This does not belong in PA, it belongs right here. You're fine with little Brent spewing his lies and disparaging people who design, build and sail plastic boats (i.e., nearly everyone here.) But instead of setting the facts straight or defending against his constant disparagement, you would essentially censor our responses to further your fucked up pacifist world view. Brent is the aggressor. Brent needs to alter his behavior if he doesn't want to attract more verbal slapdowns. The ball is always in his court. Meanwhile, coddlers like you should shut the fuck up and leave if you don't like it. Stay the hell out of the mosh pit.
  7. My experience in Nov-Dec 2016 was the opposite. I crossed from Long Beach to Oahu in a 40'er. The Go was plugged into an external sat phone antenna left over from the boat's old sat phone. It worked flawlessly. I prefer Weather4D 2.0 over PredictWind's Offshore app. It downloaded the data faster and I prefer the models it offers (by subscription). The key is to not be greedy. Don't ask for parameters you don't need or geographic areas that are too wide--and don't try to download more that a week's worth of data at a time. I rarely waited more than 5 minutes for my gribs. The texting, emails and voice abilities did exactly what we needed with no difficulties. Be prepared to play with it for a few days before you shove off. A good wifi connection to the Internet will be necessary for the initial setup.
  8. +1 Snowflakes are taking over. It doesn't matter who started it. It doesn't matter that things are said in self defense. The only thing that matters is that some little obnoxious shit was slapped back down. The First Amendment only works in one direction now. It can't be used against annoying powerless yapping little snots. If you are in any position to succed in life, your First Amendment rights are suspect. Any rational response to an idiot is now "hate speach." I need to retreat to my safe space now.
  9. I want one. The boat across from me is flying 4 ahi flags and a marlin flag. I need to step up my equipment.
  10. Or any of the 70's porn music so many play
  11. I would love to find some 30-year-old plastic boats selling for their original sticker price. Are you kidding me?
  12. Not to be a downer, but I take that as a rhetorical question/innuendo based on it's phrasing. There would also be a different standard applied to Bob's potential case since he's a "public figure" in the context of this audience. Libel is a longshot--like a Brentboat winning the VOR. How does the powdered wig look in my avatar?
  13. Not an awful idea. Perhaps the kernel of a better one. But first, please show me a pic of the welds fastening the acorn nut. Above and below decks, if possible. Also, I'm so sorry you're overwhelmed by the responses of experienced saildrive owners. Perhaps your armchair theorizing trumps the knowledge and experlence of those who are out there living the sail drive lifestyle for decades.
  14. Good questions. I had to stop listening since the race was about to start and we were not yet prepared. He was crewing on a competing boat and they were ready to go. I was joking later that distracting me was part of their race strategy. I think we beat them. I'll learn more today. The rep seems like a great guy and our local friends think very highly of him. He'll get my business, but first I need to learn more about sail tech.
  15. I had a conversation with a North rep last night. He said the 3Di Nordac is about the same price as the Radian--and the quotes did not make me vomit. He did say, however, that the main for my 40' is the upper size limit for the 3Di because of weight issues--especially if I opt for three reef points. I didn't fully follow why the 3Di would be heavier as I was busy running sheets etc. shortly before our start time. I'll follow up today. He seemed genuinely excited about the 3Di based on test sails he placed on local boats. I need to learn more and make a decision ASAP.