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  1. kleppar

    What happened to Erik Lerouge?

    As a customer for the Erik Lerouge designed Libertist 703 I occasionally stay in touch with him. He is busy with the Libertist range of trimarans, and is also working on a larger catamaran, as far as I know. I know that Rackam 26 (a very nice and fast catamaran) was produced by Tregor Composites, and that this company did not survive in the aftermath of the financial crisis.
  2. Hi Tony

    Here is a Libertist 703 webpage translated into English:

    https://www.segling.info/libertist-703-english

    My boat will be finished by the end of the year.

    Regards,

    Erik

  3. kleppar

    Self steering trimaran

    Good point; the shipyard will mount the autopilot; there is a similar boat (853) with an autopilot, so hopefully this will be done professionally.
  4. kleppar

    Self steering trimaran

    I am having a 23 ft. cabin trimaran built, with rotating carbon mast and twin rudders. I will have self steering, and am contemplating the following options: 1. a simple cockpit autopilot, e.g. Raymarine or similar 2. a fancy NKE autopilot; supposed to be state of the art 2. a mechanical windvane (Mr Vee and Windpilot have lightweight units around 10 kg) 3. a combined windvane/autopilot (Windpilot); see below (copied from Windpilot´s website); photo here. Catamarans If the wind is particularly gusty, a more reliable steering signal can be obtained by removing the windvane and using a small cockpit autopilot attached to the windvane hanger to control the pendulum arm instead.
  5. kleppar

    Self steering trimaran

    Well, I have no intention of buying the C36 advertised for sale in Norway. My Erik Lerouge designed Libertist 703 will be ready by the end of the year - the plan is to have it exhibited at the Düsseldorf boat show.....
  6. kleppar

    Self steering trimaran

    Thanks for all good advise. I shall go for NKE or Pelagic, and drop the windvane idea....By the way, is the Farrier F36 similar to Corsair 36? I notice there is a Corsair 36 for sale in Norway at present; from 2005, at around USD 90,000.
  7. kleppar

    Self steering trimaran

    Sorry, being a non native English user, and not terribly technical, but what is AWS, AWA and AFAIK?
  8. kleppar

    Self steering trimaran

    Well, this was exactly what I also had in mind. If sail by compass course is most important, the probably an Autopilot is best. But what is sailing by apparent wind is most useful? Apparent wind sailing is standard operating mode for a windvane, but for an autopilot to sail by apparent wind, complicated instruments are required, as I understand it. It seems that several of you do not believe that a windvane is sufficiently responsive on a fast trimaran. Is that really the case?
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    Self steering trimaran

    My boat will have fixed foils in floats, twin rudders and a daggerboard, so I guess it will be quite directionally stable.
  10. kleppar

    Self steering trimaran

    Sorry for posting twice about the same...... The stern of Libertist 703 will look similar to 853, except that 703 is a folding tri:
  11. kleppar

    Self steering trimaran

    The combined unit saves electricity; this is probably more important for long passages when not being able to charge batteries. However, it is an intriguing combination: https://pelagicautopilot.com/products/autopilot-for-windvane-self-steering Windpilot offers the same, with a unit much lighter than Monitor. I am tempted to go for an NKE autopilot, provided it is not too expensive.....
  12. kleppar

    Self steering trimaran

    Thanks; so far I have learned that a windvane alone is probably not a good idea. What about the combination windvane and autopilot (see photo below)? I have already contacted Pelagic, and am waiting for their response. Same for NKE France.
  13. The boat will be used in an area with frequent rain; a damp climate in general; 15-20 degr. C in the summer, and 5-10 deg. C in spring, autumn and winter. I have received jib and mainsail offers with dimension-polyant CXI and Contender CDX Pro. I have heard that Contender sailcloth is prone to be mildew stained, but this is just a rumour I picked up somewhere. Any suggestions for the right choice of cloth?
  14. Yes; as far as I understand it is an evolvement of Pulsar; there are several similarities. However, Pulsar 23 had minikeels, and 703 has not. The Libertist series have mini foils. They all have raised decks - very flat and good for safety; fixed spade rudders in foils, daggerboard in main hull and rotating carbon mast. http://erik.lerouge.pagesperso-orange.fr/tri_8.htm Here is Talence a Pulsar:
  15. I am planning to have one 703 built for use in Norway. Have looked at the competition (Corsair 760, Farrier F22, Dragonfly 25), and decided on Libertist 703. Looking forward to the result.
  16. Hmm, and how do you know all this? Ugly - that is in the eyes of the beholder; poorly designed - is Erik Lerouge known for poor design? Poorly constructed - how do you know when it only exists as a design? Slow - compared to which boats? No livable interior - I have just been on board an F22, and the Libertist 703 has just as much interior space, if not more. Which other trimarans similar size are on the market are better? I have only found Corsair 760, Farrier f22, and Dragonfly 25. In my opinion the 703 is very promising compared to its competition.
  17. I am looking for a 20 - 25 ft. "touring" version trimaran sailboat with cabin. The boat will be used in the coastal waters of south-western Norway. Here are the boats I have looked at: I am open to suggestions; at present leaning towards Libertist 703 (new design with assistant foils), but I also like F22 and Dragonfly 25, Tricat 20 and Astus 20.5 are also interesting. Corsair seems very similar to F22, but a bit longer. Any suggestions? Boat Length ft. Country of design Build Astus 20.5 20,5 France yard France Tricat 20 20,0 France yard France Libertist 703 22,0 France yard Poland Astus 24 24,0 France yard France F7 23,0 Philippines yard Philippenes Corsair 760 24,0 USA yard Vietnam F22 22,0 New Zealand yard USA Dragonfly 25 25,0 Danish yard Denmark Rocket 24 24,0 Australian yard Thailand Nicky Cruz Explorer 6.4 21,0 Australian self build W22 22,0 USA self build Pulsar 23 23,0 France self build Seaclipper 24 24,0 USA self build Tritium 720 24,0 France self build 24' Trailerable trimaran 24,0 USA self build
  18. What is this about "ad he didn't buy", "BS from these guys again", "someone lacking business integrity", etc.? What do you know that I do not know? The designer of the Libertist range, Erik Lerouge, is certainly well know in his field. The yard where the first boat, Libertist 853, was built at, is also very reputable. You may also read a favourable test article about the Libertist 853 is the latest Multihull World magazine. I thought the multihull forum was the right place to post information about new boats and new designs, so what exactly is the problem?
  19. If Dragonfly made a 7 m (22 ft.) trimaran I would probably buy it, for the convenience, the reputation etc. I have had offers for a second hand Dragonfly 800 (1990), and a Dragonfly 25 Sport (2016). The Farrier/Corsair folding system is great for trailering; the swing folding system is better for mooring, in my opinion. I shall keep my boat on a mooring most of the time. I like the compactness of the F22, and the upcoming Libertist. Latest edition of Multihulls World had an article about its bigger sibling - the Libertist 853 - very favourable. Also I have good experience with French boat designers; they know their stuff...
  20. Czech Multihulls closed in 2018. I have checked.
  21. Here is a list with prices; not the cheapest configuration; main, jib, gennaker, etc. Boat Length ft. Country of design Build Currency Approx price ex. yard cruising version Astus 20.5 20,5 France yard France NOK 259 000 Tricat 20 20,0 France yard France € 43 000 Libertist 703 22,0 France yard Poland € 60 000 Astus 24 24,0 France yard France € 60 000 F7 23,0 Philippines yard Philippenes USD 60 000 Corsair 760 24,0 USA yard Vietnam USD 80 500 F22 22,0 New Zealand yard USA USD 89 000 Dragonfly 25 25,0 Danish yard Denmark € 90 000 Rocket 24 24,0 Australian yard Thailand USD 115 000 Nicky Cruz Explorer 6.4 21,0 Australian self build unknown W22 22,0 USA self build unknown Pulsar 23 23,0 France self build unknown Seaclipper 24 24,0 USA self build unknown Tritium 720 24,0 France self build unknown 24' Trailerable trimaran 24,0 USA self build unknown
  22. Looking forward to a completed design! I may order one.