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  1. Enforcers

    You all know that quote by Paul Elvstrom, right? Maybe OAs should include it as item #1 in all SIs.
  2. Surveyor - South Haven Michigan

    Contact Mel Surdel - he'd probably come down from Saugatuck easily enough. http://a1marinesurveying.com/about/
  3. Santana 20/tuna 20

    1979 could refer to the year the sail was made (most sailmakers put a date on the bag so you know whether you're using the most recent one or not, when you have multiples aboard or in storage). Weren't many assyms made back then, unless cruising style as Sled mentioned.
  4. The shape will depend upon the design of the sail - and not just designing the flying shape (luff curve, residual broadseaming, leech hollow, etc.) but also how the sailmaker uses material to make sure the shape is achieved in practice. You can design on computer a good shape, but if you then make the sail out of 0.5oz ripstop nylon, it will distort in anything over 3kts into an unusable sail. On top of that, assuming the designed shape is actually realized when the sail is made by judicious choice and use of material. the flying shape may still not replicate the designed shape if the rig setup does not match the assumptions used by the sailmaker (rake, headstay sag, mast bend, tack offsets, etc.). So... it generally pays to get a sail made from a reputable sailmaker who is familiar with your boat... it's performance parameters (so he knows appropriate draft depths an positions, twist, sail ranges, mterial weights, etc.) and also rig setup. In your case above, assuming both sailmakers have designed the appropriate shape and the sails replicate that shape when hoisted/trimmer, then the 3Di sail will in general hold that shape over a wider range of windspeed, and assuming it is made out of lighter cloth weight (almost assuredly the case), it will also present less heeling moment, be easier to handle, etc.
  5. Here's the bumper-sticker version : Performance comes from shape Material (and how it is used) defines shape longevity and modifiability
  6. Agree... not needed in the GL, even in the North Channel or other "cruising grounds" (e.g., Beaver archipelago). The better upwind ability which will be more useful in getting you where you are going, and reduced maintenance, are pluses.
  7. Here you go - tall rig/deep keel, already a freshwater GL boat. Just get rid of that dodger/awning crap and you can go sailing for real. Tartan 37 on LM
  8. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    They're a little low too, but that's probably to protect the hull from shark attacks.
  9. Cold molded boats, how have they held up?

    Didn't WEST originally stand for Wood Epoxy Saturation Technique ?
  10. quick!...Someone call the WHAAmbulance

    Yes, you will. Chill. Enjoy your weekend with the soon-to-be missus... there are worse things going on.
  11. Yeah, that stuck in my craw too. Kudos to them for a great achievement, but I think we can all agree that a RACE record (as opposed to a COURSE) record does imply certain additional constraints.
  12. There was nothing wrong with her original color IMHO.
  13. BCam Eight Bells

    Shit. I met Bruce at a US Sailing meeting also (in Chicago) back in the mid or late 90's. He and I and Larry (QW) had some interesting discussions about the decline of IOR/rise of IMS, the pressures the IMS rule was coming under, the shortcomings in the VPP, etc. He was a pleasant, smart, no-nonsense guy. Over the years we communicated off and on via rec.boats.racing and here, email. Like you say Glen, a warm personality, quick wit, real sense of balance.
  14. Chance 44` ketch

    If you search the forums under Larry's "Some of my old photos..." thread and look for Cumulus, I think you'll find a picture and some additional info/stories on her...