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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
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      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. Thanks for all the replies and PM's so far. I'm working with our fleet captain and dockmaster to compile a list of boats to demo next season. Keep the suggestions coming.
  2. What's the status of double-handed dinghys in North America in 2016? In particular, I belong to a community sailing club that is looking to replace our double-handed fleet in the next couple of years and am trying to get a sense of what's out there today. We have a big commitment to our adult learn-to-sail program, so we need something that's not too overwhelming for the raw beginners, OTOH, we'd like to get something that provides some level of performance, ideally something that has about the same handicap rating as the Laser so that we can race it head -to-head without worrying too much about handicap. And we'd like to stick with the ~15' ~ 300lbs range (Flying Scots, RS Fevas etc are not really what we're looking for.) So what's out there that fits that description that's actually still in production? Some background: we were a 470 club for a long time, using "club 470s" from Vanguard which had simplified rigging and beefed up glass to take abuse. These worked well, but aren't available anymore (or 470s at all for that matter). We're now on our second fleet of JY-15s, which is just a poor compromise all-around IMHO, plus the main selling point for that boat - it's made out of plastic - is gone since they're made out of fiberglass now. The V15 would be a nice choice, but that's not made anymore either. We just demoed an RS Quest, which would make for a nice beginner/teaching boat, but it has all the excitement of a tricycle and couldn't keep up with the Lasers. What else is there? The Snipe is a bit cramped in the cockpit, Fireballs don't seem to be made anymore (and is probably too much boat anyway), 505s are definitely too much.boat. We'll probably take another look at the Mutineer, but my recollection is a heavy sluggish boat. Albacores don't seem to be available in a simplified/less-expensive version. RS Vision is a possibility. Maybe an RS200 if they're available in the states. Anybody have anything to say about the Laser Bahia? Other boats I'm not aware of? Thanks.
  3. A very American-looking list. A British list would include designs by Uffa Fox, Ian Proctor, Jack Holt, etc. Mirror Dinghy, GP-14, 404, Enterprise, etc, etc. Well, yes, that's where I live, so that's what I know. I understand that this is the internet and I'm supposed to spout off about things I know nothing about, but I haven't quite gotten the hang of that yet. BTW, there's at least one Uffa Fox design on that list.
  4. Some dinghys that have been around for decades and are still actively raced: Albacore Wayfarer / CL-16 Snipe Butterfly Sunfish Lightning Thistle Laser 505 M/MC/A/E Scows (can't seem to keep my scows straight) Boats that seem to be on the way out: 470 JY-15 Fireball Y-Flyer
  5. The RRS has this to say: So it looks like the RRS allows the RC to abandon in this situation. I'm just wondering whether it's "best practice". allen makes a good point about this being a handicap race and the shift favoring the faster boats
  6. This is called At the Pin on Port, and is absolutely legal if you can get away with it. I did it in the start of the race previous to the one that is the topic for this thread: big lefty, at the pin on port, wave to everyone starting on starboard as you cross in front of them. (c: The race in question was proceeded by a big righty, and the boat end was massively favored. It was clear to me at the start that I would be able to fetch the mark if the wind held. Unlike the previous race, it did, and we got called back once we rounded. BTW, I'm not complaining, it didn't affect the end results, and I wouldn't complain even if it did. I'm just trying to get a sense of whether it was the right call for when I face a similar situation as PRO.
  7. I don't remember what flag the RC had up. Probably the right one, since he's fairly serious about PRO duties. But as you say, it doesn't really matter. I think the delay was because he waited to see if we actually were going to fetch the mark without tacking, and then sent the mark boat out to tell us to come back. I don't recall the term "unfair" being used. I think the idea is to have a well laid out course and if it's not then abandon, reset, & restart. The question is when is it too late to decide to abandon, reset, & restart. My opinion is "after the starting signal", but I may be all wet in that opinion. This was a handicap race, but the same boats were in front as in all the other races, so I think the relative positions of the boats was more skill than luck. That said, perhaps some of us could fetch without tacking and others could not (I was in the front and didn't look back, so I don't know if this was the case, but probably) so maybe some would consider that unfair. Hypothetical Question: if the race had not been abandoned, would someone have a case for redress? Might they win? Could this be an explanation of why the race was abandoned? Good suggestion. Unless I see something that says the RC should have abandoned the race, we'll have a talk with the RC before the next regatta. If it's optional, and the racers prefer actual racing to "perfect course setting", then we can tell him to let us play on. I understand that at the National Championship level you want to be more picky about the squareness of the course, and you don't want the national title decided by a lucky wind shift. But those are usually held in more steady venues where shifts like this are rare. On our lake they happen all the time, and this was a decidedly unserious event.
  8. Scenario: At a regatta over the weekend - dinghys on a small lake - there was a wind shift right before the start of one of the races that lasted long enough for the front of the fleet to reach the windward mark without tacking. The PRO saw this and recalled the fleet after about half the fleet had rounded the windward mark. Question: Is this expected race management? I don't have any formal training in regatta management, but I've run a bunch of events. My take is that once the fleet is off to a clean start it's up to them and the wind to get around the course. Sure, I'll abort a race if the weather turns nasty or the wind completely dies, but my instinct is to not recall due to a wind shift. Other opinions? The point here is not to complain but rather to see what standard practice is.