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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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  1. Very few will admit to the truth of why tillers replaced wheels in Farr40OD's, TP52's etc. The "published" reasoning for using tillers for inshore racing was faster maneuverability, better helmsman weight position, less boat weight, etc. The "real" reason was/is very simple; helmsman concentration for optimal boat steering only. The tiller locks the helmsman sitting on the rail, facing in the boat, with no view "outside" the yacht, which is perfect for close quarters, inshore racing. Tacticians (especially paid ones) hate helmsmen (owner/helmsmen) looking around outside the boat making tactical decisions. Decisions of when to tack, gybe, sail for speed or height, etc should never be made by the helmsman of a Farr40OD, TP, etc, etc when sailing close quarter inshore racing. The helmsmans only job is to steer the yacht to its optimum where he/she is told. Wheel steering is, for obvious reasons, ergonomically much better for longer leg races, and where the number of split second tactical decisions are markedly reduced. In Smooth Criminal's case, it is because both Helen's and my backs can no longer cope with the spine jarring crunches this boat delivers when driving upwind in 15+ knots on Port Phillip. That's certainly an "interesting" take on the rationale for Tillers Vs. Wheels... Some might also argue it's for better and more direct responsiveness and feel !!?? In your case, sounds like a sensible enough reason to swap over to Wheels!
  2. Actually they are the antenna pods for the new microwave inducted relativity surface friction transmorgrafication system we've just installed. Unfortunately, anyone within 100 metres of Smooth Criminal when the system is activated will require lead lined Helly Hansens, or they will end up teleported to RMYS in the mid 1960's. No doubt the final result will be functional & look great... The boat was certainly well ahead of its time when launched, terrific to see it's obviously still delivering plenty of joy to its longstanding owners & crew!
  3. Who's the 12 Syd38s maybe? Phoenix are the ones to beat at present? 1. Phoenix 2. 38 Deg 3. Audacious 4. Challenge 5. Chutzpah38 6. Cinquante 7. Mille Sabords 8. Playground 9. Sierra Chainsaw 10. Slipknot? 11. new team? 12. visitors? Hmm... F40's not that far behind in numbers, seven at the recent Victorian "States" and apparently a Worlds coming to Sydney next year... Opportunity maybe for some of the Syd38 teams to step it up a notch and go International??!! Would be an easy transition for the likes of the Phoenix guys!
  4. No doubting S38's popularity here in Oz, but it would be hard to think of a more successful 40 foot design worldwide (past or present) than the Farr... Soto 40, MC 38, Farr 400?? In a buyers market, S38 & F40 both look like pretty good value nowadays!
  5. Yeah, fantastic news if it happens. And then he can race it in the virtually non-existent Div Zero. WooHoo, bet he can't wait for that!! Let's face it, Div 0 is dead. Begs the question what's happened to all the boats? Calm (only boat out racing regularly) Terrafirma (in Sydney, hardly sailed, why?) The Doll (hardly sails nowadays, why?) Goldfinger (hardly sails nowadays, why?) XLR8 (hardly sails nowadays, why?) Shogun (Sydney based, hardly sailed, why?) Cougar (sold, rumoured to be replaced, but will they get their crew back from Calm?) What are Phil Coombs and Chris Dare up too? They seemed to have disappeared off the earth. They are expensive!! (at a time when most who could afford it are being cautious with their $) and they burn through the crew! I think you're being a bit harsh re Goldfinger & XLR8 although I wouldn't classify them in same league (Grand Prix??!!) as the others. If Cougar is replaced, I don't think they will have too many problems getting a crew together to sail a current generation TP52!
  6. Hammo is a sliding scale depending on size of boat as per below: Slight difference in the "quality" of the environment and experience though!! Boats up to 8.0m LOA AU$250 8.0m - 12.0m LOA AU$665 12.0m - 14.0m LOA AU$770 14.0m-16.0m LOA AU$875 16.0m-18.0m LOA AU$980 18.0m - 24.5m LOA AU$1,230 Over 24.5m LOA AU$2,500
  7. I appreciate you point of view. If that is the general consensus, why does SYC enter a team, considering the cost of entry is born by the members? Save the $1000 and put it to use elsewhere? If so where? The concept of some form of interclub competition is still sound, provided it's in a relevant format. Some suggestions... 1. Why not just incorporate it into the Range Series which is already an "interclub" event - Best three boats from each club on the day count??!! OR 2. Send a bunch of the best SAILORS (as opposed to rating bandit boats) from each club out in a One Design class??!!
  8. Not the first time they've done it. And re the fixed marks for the overnighter, reckon that can't be fucked up ? Ask Don about a certain Tam O Shanter a few years ago Thanks for the reminder! Now I have to restart my medications! Must be Viagra judging by the length of your prodder!!
  9. A regatta costs a lot of money to put on. And needs a lot of volunteers to make it happen. There are always a few who want it all for nothing and just will not understand that it would not happen without volunteers and $$$$$$. Geelong might be a victim of it's own success. Because it is a great regatta it got big. Because it got big - it costs more to run. Should that expense come out of the volunteers pockets? Very much appreciate the time and effort the volunteers put in, and have no issue in paying accordingly! Essentially agree with all the comments made, however a number of the "initiatives" have discouraged sailors from coming, which is the exact opposite to what should be happening. Declining numbers over the last few years, and realistically pretty piss poor entries to date for this year, I'd suggest support this. My main beef is with the format of the racing... 1. You are now forced to enter for the full four day event, whereas they always used to offer a shorter series just for the weekend (ie. the passage race down on Saturday and one or two races on the Sunday). It worked really well for those who wanted to enjoy the atmosphere for a night or two, but had work on the other days or weren't that serious about doing the whole thing. 2. They have separated out IRC (as a separate series and division) from AMS and EHC?? You do realise that Oz Day is always on the 26th therefore the format will always be different every year because the 26th is on a different day each year. So whats wrong with having more divisions? More winners that way. I did read somewhere that you can enter IRC AND AMS. Must be in the same start for that to happen. Not really wanting to get into an ongoing discussion about this, but as per Amendment 4 of the NOR, if you are entered in the "IRC" series you can also get an AMS result. However, it does not change Item 4.2 of the NOR, which is - There are two separate Audi Series, Audi IRC Series and Audi Performance Series (AMS and EHC). Boats may enter in only one Audi Series. The two CAN NOT be on the same start line as the schedule of races is slightly different for the two series!! Logically, surely it would have made more sense to run it like the Range series where all boats of a similar size and / or speed are banded into the same division / start / series, and you choose which of the three rating systems you want to race under??!! Can you appreciate the frustration now? BTW OCS... Wednesday afternoon non spinnaker recreational racing is now the most heavily subscribed series at our club! Saturday racing declining!
  10. A regatta costs a lot of money to put on. And needs a lot of volunteers to make it happen. There are always a few who want it all for nothing and just will not understand that it would not happen without volunteers and $$$$$$. Geelong might be a victim of it's own success. Because it is a great regatta it got big. Because it got big - it costs more to run. Should that expense come out of the volunteers pockets? Very much appreciate the time and effort the volunteers put in, and have no issue in paying accordingly! Essentially agree with all the comments made, however a number of the "initiatives" have discouraged sailors from coming, which is the exact opposite to what should be happening. Declining numbers over the last few years, and realistically pretty piss poor entries to date for this year, I'd suggest support this. My main beef is with the format of the racing... 1. You are now forced to enter for the full four day event, whereas they always used to offer a shorter series just for the weekend (ie. the passage race down on Saturday and one or two races on the Sunday). It worked really well for those who wanted to enjoy the atmosphere for a night or two, but had work on the other days or weren't that serious about doing the whole thing. 2. They have separated out IRC (as a separate series and division) from AMS and EHC??
  11. Yep, those greedy pricks really have stuffed what was a great event!
  12. Not to mention the other 110 boats and associated souls competing their hardest in the other divisions! Great and exciting racing in Div 2 & 3 with 40 or so similar sized boats all racked up on the same line, and not many fewer in Div. 1! A great display of a healthy keelboat fleet in Melbourne with many quality boats and crews across all divisions.
  13. The exodus is because the YV handicap committee have changed the Div 1/ Div 2 breakpoint 0.890. And all Adams 10s will now be in Div 2. Do you really think they'd rather race against all the A10s ? Not sure that is altogether correct... There is a choice of which division to sail if within 10 points either side of the breakpoint. By my understading the mid 30's were within that range, but made a conscious decision to Sail Div. 2 (as makes for better starts, less distance to sail etc etc). Historically there may have been some "Kudos" in being in Div. 1, however I think those days are gone as there are now some really good boats and sailors in other divisions. If you look at Sydney, they've had mulitple divisions for ages with good boats accross the range!
  14. Yes, very honourable! Great to see the little(er) guys battle it out and get a bit of recognition, while the Div 0's faded to a fleet of 3 by the afternoon! What happened?
  15. The windward mark was to leeward of the hitch which made for a bad traffic jam. There was a S38 that definitely did not round the windward mark, but there were also a couple of others that went straight to the hitch. We (SC) pulled out at the hitch mark after we could not round it. If you know for sure who cheated "Name & Shame" them... Not fair on those who had a bloody tough day and earned a result fair and square!!