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  1. HILLY

    VOR Leg 8 Itajaí to Newport

    Jack said that context can be lost in all the noise here, so just going to put some context to TTOP's race, yes I follow them, no i'm not reaching for razor blades.... TTOP finished 100mins behind Mapfre, or 0.44% of Mapfre winning time, they were 3 miles back when Mapfre finished, or 0.052% of course length. Context; the boats keel cants thru 40 degrees, Time % as deg of cant = 0.176 deg. Dist % as deg of cant = 0.0208 deg. They hold 1100 litres of water ballast in a centreline tank, Time % = 4.8 litres, Dist. % = 0.572 litres Liz was saying they need to find .1 of a knot, its less than that, at 20 knots, to cover the time they need to be 0.08 knots quicker, to cover the distance beaten by, its only 0.01knots. All the boats in front of TTOP will have much smaller % differences. Do they trim for such small % differences, can you trim for such small %, or is this where the capricious hand of fate/luck comes into play. TTOP for a podium finish in 1 or (fingers x'ed) all the next 3 legs... Viva the 1 design!!
  2. HILLY

    Race flag ownership

    I think PPB's photo is from the other side. If you and charisma decided to edumicate yourselves you would find there is a difference. It wasn't adopted by Hitler till 1920; it has a 5,000 year history, as noted by the Holocaust museum. https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007453 Charisma, take your faux righteous indignation and shove it up you arse.
  3. HILLY

    Race flag ownership

    Symbol as it appears on 18' skiff. Symbol as chosen by the National Socialist party. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauwastika Educate yourselves before carrying on like little hitlers demanding that someone change their avatar. PPB educate yourself if you want to offend...
  4. HILLY

    VOR Leg 8 Itajaí to Newport

    After 4 days, 96 hrs, (approx.), and a north to south distance of 11 miles first to last, the difference in speed is 0.12 kn. I don't think Nico could even instinct that...
  5. HILLY

    VOR Leg 8 Itajaí to Newport

    C'mon TTOP, keep consolidating on this gutsy move!
  6. HILLY

    VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Would love to be posting this at the finish.....................
  7. HILLY

    VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Don't forget Lucas Chapman on TTOP, and Kyle Langford on Brunel. If Dong Feng and Mapfre are looking, Ian Jensen and Nathan Outridge, still not on Volvo boats yet...
  8. HILLY

    VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    For those wondering, why raise your arm, this is part of water safety taught to people here in OZ. Having been involved in rescuing a MOB many years ago, it still amazes me at how little of the person is visible, you are literally looking for an object smaller than a basket ball, a wet head kinda blends in nicely with its surrounds, and with no hi vis gear, it comes down to luck... Maybe they need to issue caps, like they use in surf life saving, or hi vis peak caps for daylight.
  9. http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/sydney-clocks-the-hottest-place-on-earth-as-hot-weather-continues-20180107-h0etl6.html
  10. We are going into the export business... Fair trade 'n all.. https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-expected-to-become-world-s-top-medicinal-cannabis-supplier-health-minister
  11. HILLY


    S.S. I appreciate the fact that as a journalist, you want to deal in facts. Here are some facts, R.R.S. R.13 does NOT contain the following points; Distance that KEEP CLEAR is judged by. Time that KEEP CLEAR is judged by. Speed of boats involved in the incident. Length of boats involved in incident. Value of boats involved in incident. Fear factor of people involved. Safety of manoeuvre. It states in fact: she shall keep clear of other boats until she is on a close-hauled course. It doesnt even state the boat needs to be trimmed up on that course... In Aus, many of our sports are judged down to a single frame from video footage, this may capture an event at .1/sec. and that is good enough for the pros that play Rugby League, Union, Cricket, Tennis, Horse racing, there are probably more. With the availability and popularity of drones, will more sailing events use the technology to adjudicate on manoeuvres / mark roundings? This jury reviewed video of the event, before facts were found, I wonder how in-depth that review was conducted. In the future, if someone yells out protest, and you comply by doing a 720, will you be allowed redress for time lost if video / stills, show that you had in fact complied with the rules. Please note, I do not have a foot in either camp, just wondering what the future holds now that video has been used to adjudicate such a public moment as this. Here are 2 screen shots from Ch7 heli video of the incident:
  12. HILLY

    VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    I cant get the "current" button to work on the volvo gis.ee site, but the hobart gis.ee tracker which is still online and giving current info. For around Aus, there is SST-IMOS. https://gis.ee/sh/ http://oceancurrent.imos.org.au/sst.php#
  13. HILLY

    Doing turns on a Long Distance Race

    This whole incident shows that the comittee only review incidents in normal speed, and do not use freeze frame for review. This is inconsistent with other sports, so that even if you think you are in the right, you will still need to do your turns, review the video, to a freeze frame level, and if you believe that you have complied with the rules, then seek redress. World Sailing. will need to add to 62.1 something along the lines of "a boat which complies with rule 44, and is later found to not have broken a rule of Part 2, shall be given redress equal to the time taken to comply with R44" They will also need to address people who will use this to throw the red flag at every close incident, to help clear a lane for themselves, with something along the lines of "a boat that initiates 2 protests, that were later found to be incorrect, shall be subject to a time / scoring penalty for a 3rd. wrong call, and possible D.S.Q. from series for a subsequent wrong call" This still from the video of W.O. and Com, clearly shows Oats on a close hauled course while Com, is still bow down. The pro crew on both boats probably face incidents like this as an every day matter of sailing in different events. The only amateurs involved were the Cooney family, I wonder if the protest would have gone ahead if he was not onboard.
  14. HILLY

    Sydney to Hobart 2017

    S.I.'s : 20. ALTERNATIVE PENALTIES (Amends RRS 44, 63.1 and 64) 20.1 BEFORE CLEARING TURNING MARKS Z/Y. (a) For an infringement of Part 2 of the RRS that occurs after the Preparatory Signal and prior to the boat clearing the relevant seamark (Mark Z/ Mark Y), the Two Turns Penalty under RRS 44.2 shall apply. RRS: 44 PENALTIES AT THE TIME OF AN INCIDENT 44.1 Taking a Penalty A boat may take a Two-Turns Penalty when she may have broken one or more rules of Part 2 in an incident while racing. I agree, it does say the Two Turn Penalty SHALL apply, RRS 44.1 states that a boat MAY take a 2 turn penalty. As M.R. didn't believe that he fouled C, and don't forget he was closer to the incident than the helm / afterguard on C, then he apparently chose not to do the turns.. I hope you understand that SHALL & MAY have 2 seperate meanings.
  15. HILLY

    Sydney to Hobart 2017

    Most people here don't get it but the rules ARE different, although I don't go near the cesspool that is the A.C. these rules that use multiple starting lines, and seperate rounding marks, have written into the S.I.'s, starting at S.I. 20, a set of rules pertaining to what happens between the prep signal and the 2 offshore rounding marks. They amend the following rules:(Amends RRS 44, 63.1 and 64).