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  1. Looking for ideas for a YC mast crane

    I think we are talking about masts in the J24 range here, not 50-60's here. This computer does not want to post pics, but a wood telephone pole that has been there for years I think proves the concept. We're only talking a 100lbs. or so to hoist.
  2. Which Team can beat OR-USA

    My money would be on BAR or ETNZ. BAR because of BA and they appear to have it together, ETNA because they are creative, figuring out the foiling last time way ahead of the others. OR caught-up due to LE's bucks to throw at it with RC & JS going to school on it at the last minute, just short of too late.
  3. collaboration vs isolation

    DC stayed away from Perth in '87 and that seemed to have worked-out OK.
  4. Ehman v Coutts

    dogwatch - if someone with the dough who does not like what is happening with the Cup, like LE did not like EB's vision, they could do the same with TE leading the way.
  5. Looking for ideas for a YC mast crane

    The pole RKoch described has been used for numerous J24, etc. midwinters for years with no issues. I can post a pic later if you like. Just find who has the latest broken mast, ours is off an old Farr 36 upper section. I think the jumpers are still on for support.
  6. ACWS New York - May 6, 7, 8 2016

    The Bro was there yesterday. The boat he liked seeing the most? Velsheda.
  7. Need clarification of Rule 18

    I would take your video to the PRO or other race officer that is not a party to this incident for advice. (not one of his buddies, obviously) If they feel the evidence is conclusive then do one of two things: Have a conversation with the 105 guy. Let him know not to pull this crap again. If you feel strongly then file the Rule 69. You have to let this guy, and others, know that you are not a patsy to be taken advantage of. If he is not accepting then you may want to put it in your pocket and keep it in mind the next time you are near him. There are legal ways on the course to get your point across, but do not let your judgment affect the overall race on a particular day, but if the opportunity comes then strike. I had a guy screw with me a while back, he was in another class in a slightly bigger boat, but kept camping on my wind and generally screwing with me at times on the course. Next race he was back on his boat, which is smaller than the other boat and the boat I was driving, and he had a few 'moments' of bad gas and stuck on a tack where he would want to tack-out, but could not because I was there until I was ready to go. He could have tacked earlier, he could have slowed down but chose not to, and I just took my time when calling for my tack. I am sure it cost him a place or two but he stays away from me now. Oh yeah, learn to communicate and defend your position on the course, you do not have to get into a shouting match, just state your claim and let it go from there. An early call on your part may have headed-off this situation: "I need room, I am inside and on starboard tack, I need room here."
  8. Sailing on a Melges 24 this weekend for the first time in about 8-10 years. Friday looks light with the wind picking-up Saturday and Sunday with the temps dropping. So...who's gonna be there? I'll see you on Firewater.
  9. 12 meter stability question

    Well he did do the mods to Intrepid in '70, which I would guess he would have used data from Chancegger on the work. Many said she was slower than '67 and Driscoll removed all that in '74 when she went toe-to-toe with Courageous. Britt was vindicated in '87 with his work on the S&S team. Mariner was just a bad experiment when data from the tank was not as accurate, or understood. His fast custom boats also showed his talent, Equation and others that were winning designs. Olin had a dog in '70 with Valiant, so nobody is perfect.
  10. ^^ Oh, I think you must be big in AUS, don't sell yourself short BP...
  11. 12 meter stability question

    Lipton got an allowance to be towed, and when making the petition to go to 44' w/l the NYYC asked to have the own bottom provision removed.
  12. ^^ How is that? He owed me nothing. He sent out a call for anyone who would be there and I showed up, simple as that. Do I agree and kiss ass on everything he (or Scot) says? Hell no. But he has his right and I have mine, I respect their sandbox and if I get to a point I do not like their rules I will quit coming here. Nothing more or nothing less. So what's the big deal?
  13. The Super 12

    It is sort of in the vein of Blackaller's USA61, without the forward rudder, and maybe where some of the 12's may have headed eventually.
  14. The Super 12

    If you just use the rule them it becomes an arms race (if anyone's ego goes that far) so one design to keep that out of the equation. Also I think the design changes are to make the boat sail and turn better than the full keel set-up would allow. It is kind of a cross between a 12 and IACC rule boats. I'll sit back and watch what happens, hopefully some good racing with well crewed boats. If not, oh well.