Livia

I have been listening to LB 15 same jokes in long races since about 1978! What do I win!

Right now!

Pretty much the view from my Office. That bridge washed away of course.

Not sure it rated much lower anyway on IRC, 1.145 v. 1.152ish Be interesting to see the righting moments

Seems a sailing class association in just one jurisdiction that is having the problem with their own rules. Rest of the world seems to understand the class rules quite well and got ticks on the paper. Thats right we call those things Rules.

Still not getting it. "Eventually you have to ask the question...How perdantic do you want to be? Nothing to stop the builder wedging up the mould in the middle and draging the ends down before laminating commences, narrowing beam and flattening rocker. The framers of the rule understood the issues associated with moulding polyester boats and produced templates and tolerances for a very good reason." Read the Rules! It is not an issue of simply meeting two measurement stations in front of the mast.

Old document from about 2012 which does not address the current issues. In any event this statement does not reflect the Class Rules "The Class has hull templates which are applied to the finished hull. If the hull fits these templates, and all measurements are within the Class tolerances and specifications, the hull is an Etchells." Indeed this issue is at the centre of the current controversy, as the renders from Zonker in the other thread show.

You might want to get a bit more up to date there.

So when the Rules, on everyones admission, have not been followed and you call bullshit, you suddenly have a chip on your shoulder. No wonder the sport is fucked and the sport is full of fuckwits who say that it is all good. Buy yourself a mirror.

So what you are really saying is that they are about an "Etchells"but not an "Etchells"

Little confused now a US Court case applies outside CoVid Central. Anyhow

Relevant mould 11 boats are after about 1447 and since mid 2018 So not now it would seem. Even the head of north sails sailing perhaps the most successful boat in history (947) is not in the top 10. Nothing to see here move on!

NSW States Results Mould 11: 1, 2 ,4 ,6 ,7, 17 Mould 10: 3, Mould 9: 5, 8, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, Mould 8: 9, 10 , unknown: 20 Nothing to see here move on! BTW, 5 of 6 races won by mould 11 Pos Sail No Boat Name Skipper Club R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 Pts 1 AUS1473 FUMANCHU2 Mark Roberts MRC 3 2 [12] 3 4 4 16 2 AUS1487 HAVOC Colin Beashel RSYS [9] 1 1 8 2 6 18 3 1484 LISAROSE Martin Hill RSYS 1 4 8 [10] 3 2 18 4 AUS1485 FIRST TRACKS Peter Merrington CYCA 4 7 2 1 [8] 5 19 5 AUS1026 FLIRTATION Matt Crawford RPAYC 2 [10] 5 7 6 8 28 6 AUS1483 GREAT WHITE HUNTER David Dunn RSYS [14] 6 9 2 9 3 29 7 AUS1478 TRIAD2020 John Bertrand RBYC 12 5 14 [15] 1 1 33 8 AUS1219 CARABELLA Matthew McCann RSYS 7 [20] 4 6 5 12 34 9 AUS1392 THELASTONE Steve Billingham RSYS [15] 3 3 9 11 9 35 10 AUS1213 2107 RACING David Taylor RPAYC 5 8 6 13 [20] 14 46 11 AUS947 PIE Mark Bradford RSYS 11 12 7 5 [16] 16 51 12 831 VIKEN Mark Tolhurst RSYS 13 [16] 10 11 10 11 55 13 AUS1463 AUS1463 Matthew Ramaley RSYS 10 [14] 13 12 14 10 59 14 AUS1134 DOT Jamie Macphail GSC [19] 9 15 4 18 19 65 15 AUS853 IRIS III Peter McNeill LMYC 16 11 16 16 7 [18] 66 16 AUS1187 ADAM MAGPIE Emma Harrison CYCA 6 19 11 18 [21] 17 71 17 AUS1447 AVALON Michael Bellingham RSYS [23] 15 21 20 13 7 76 18 1325 FINESSE Andrew Kearnan CYCA 17 17 [19] 17 15 13 79 19 AUS1314 KALIKA 3 Alistair Read RPAYC 8 18 18 19 17 [21] 80 20 NGR1450 AFRICAN QUEEN Jan Muysken LYC 21 13 [23] 14 22 15 85 21 AUS1088 SUN TZU George Johnstone GSC 20 [21] 20 21 12 20 93 22 AUS1291 THE DON Donald Wilson GSC 18 [22] 17 22 19 22 98 23 AUS1286 FROTH Geoff Dilworth GSC 22 23 22 24 [25F] 23 114 24 AUS511 GRAND V DArcy Kemp RPAYC [24] 24 24 23 23 24 118

Bit harsh there DK. But these southern muppets most certainly raced under and obeyed the RRS! That can be a great difficulty for the northern cousins!

You start with an old Farr 40 OD and get Rob Hick to cut and shut IRC wise. More form stability and less draft