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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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Everything posted by lydia

  2. So the RYCT has formally objected to the establishment of a new salmon farm off Wedge Island in Storm Bay because, what for it, it will be a hazard to yachts in the Hobart Race. At best it is 7 miles off the rhumb line and what, all those experienced navigators can't miss a well lit fish farm. And because of those two days a year there will be no fish farm. Really! Sounds like someone has another agenda. www.abc.net.au/2016-07-17/news/salmon-farm-expansion-river-derwent-could-interrupt-yacht-race/7635948
  3. Definitely Compass Yachts. Check out the cockpit detail aft. sorry
  4. Pity there is no video on the boat next door. Equally famous in it's own way. Did a cruise in company with Holger around Tasmania some years back. It was owned by Eric the German back then. It was fun.
  5. Don't anyone get ideas, New South Wales still has the old test for a AVO, that there was domestic violence and that it will happen again where as other Australian states have a new test of whether it is appropriate that an order be made. What ever that means.
  6. Should be on the front page! NAME THAT BOAT Win something from Teaky's desk Wanna Cry is a good start I am going first with "The Pram" as in Ed can throw his toys out if it!
  7. Greasy You miss the point, we don't play there, the boat is just kept there. We don't do club events and we don't go to the bar there. We might if the product was better but it is not. They have even withdrawn from the regular combined clubs events because they are so special.
  8. JS I have been a director of the major club entity (the one that makes all the money anyway) So settle down.
  9. Not so simple, that is what happens when clubs stop being clubs and just be boat storage facilities
  10. I would have thought "Downfall " would have been more appropriate.
  11. Hey i am the one that turns up and pays, end of story, they are guests on my boat. They are not racing their own boats in your precious club events. If they bludging off anyone it is me. And how exactly are they bludging off other members by walking from the gate to the marina, really. You also miss the point I am not talking about your club events because we don't play those but then again who does. We go and play in other people events because gee i don't know, they have a better products many of which we like to buy. Stop drinking the Koolaid.
  12. Not all states banded. How many members does Sandringham have?
  13. Nobody is bashing anyone here, I just want value for my money and right now i don't see i get it. And secondly i don't bullshit excuses like the insurance or whatever to conscript people to pay more than they should for very little benefit. Especially as I am a member of 4 clubs so get four times the cost and not four times the benefit.
  14. Members are not allowed at meetings, only the AGM which usually lasts about 10 minutes.
  15. Random, so what is the range or they all the same?
  16. What you really mean is that you are making 3 contributions to AS but only one set of benefits.
  17. Dunc, the range is now getting embarrassing.
  18. So on a different topic namely, your contribution to your State Association and then the Arsehats, anyone asked their club how much of your yearly fee is going to the peak bodies this year. Most clubs will not say what they are paying and say it is just part of your membership fee and you can't know, but very curious as to the range across the country.
  19. So at a club I sail we are headed to the situation where only club members can sail on the boats of club members. Of course no one has the guts to come out and say this but it is achieved by stealth. So as of 1 May all gate key tags are turned off. (It was not uncommon for people to have a keycard for each car so multiple key cards which I would otherwise lend to crew dropping gear at the boat for instance) You now only get access by a single membership card, no duplicates issued. No crew access or passes to get to the marina and to a members boat. We are not talking about bar rights here. After 3 club races a person sailing in a race must join the club. So only 2 of my 8 guys are club members and 6 are members at the club next do. (So no Arsehat issue and everyone has a AS membership nos.) Of the 8 we have a pathologist, a sail maker, a cabinet maker, lawyer, manager of a large printing company so not exactly drug fucked layabouts except the lawyer. But apparently these people cannot be trusted to pass through the gate and walk along the marina to my boat. I am now required to attend the front door pick everyone up in my car and drive through the grounds to the marina and to the boat or otherwise escort them through the grounds. So 2 trip for me sometimes 3 with gear in the truck. I would be hard to make it any more difficult to go sailing for a day. So the prohibition on entry is not far away, not withstanding I am the member and I pay my fees and these people are my guests. Of course requesting crew names has been tried in the past at this club with the response that most boats just sail at other clubs/events now and by-pass the place. Last weekend they had a whole 6 boats sail in a premier club event. You reap what you sow!
  20. Snoops, you might want to read the report and bit about the salmon farm vessels interacting with the Huon river fleets safely but not so much when they come up town. That is funny.
  21. Pity the official report got released this week. Harsh reading for spar-lash and his mates. Looks like SBSC has a bit of work to do.
  22. Funnily enough, I spend quite a bit of time on sailing administration each week, and most of it is dealing with issues AS do not want to touch or trying to get ordinary sailors value for their sailing dollar. As for standing for office you clearly do not understand One Sailing which of course carries with it the great irony that AS will now have to deal with all the state based issues it always ran a hundred miles from or not deal with them at all leaving no body representing sailors to deal with them.
  23. yep
  24. I should say that a few of us are getting things changed by making the Arsehats irrelevant and helping the clubs do their own thing for their own members. And top marks to the club administrators who have had the guts to do it.
  25. Well done Phil S, you are defending the Sailing Arsehats and you sail a class which in it's history has never affiliated and does not appear to done so even now according to the Arsehat website. As to the other stuff, we have a fragmented set of rules because of peak body inaction as each states has a different approach to the Col Regs and RRs problem. Let alone the states where the Col Regs breach is a criminal offence which voids insurance. RRs don't mean much. Government liason has worked well seeing you still can't legally trail a sports boat or an Etchell is three states. Again no insurance. Name one instance where our peak body has delivered on a national level in the past decade. And we don't get a keel boat measurement , we pay for that separately at up to 100% mark up compared to the UK. Next.