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  1. hardly- one of the criticisms of Kirby is that there hasn't been a physical sale of a Kirby Torch yet, so anyone wanting one... even on protest for local sailing... can't buy one. This picture shows how easy that criticism can (and maybe soon, will) be addressed. Taking a global point of view I completely understand where you are coming from, and probably agree. Certainly PSA have made it very clear that they come down on Bruce Kirby's side of the dispute, and fair enough. However from a regional / local perspective, publishing photos taken in their factory of a Laser rebadged as a Kirby Torch only serves to raise questions about PSA's understanding of their local market and their strategic thinking. Bottom line is that given a choice most Kiwis and Aussies want to continue to sail boats called Lasers. My point was that it's surprising how readily PSA gave up the moral high ground in this dispute. Now they'll find it quite difficult to run the argument that they've been unwittingly drawn into the dispute while simultaneously promoting the introduction of the Torch class.
  2. Where was that boat made? One of the new builders in Canada or Europe? Or is it just a PSA hull with a Torch logo stuck on it? Definitely PSA's factory on the east coast of Australia, for what it's worth.. I'm told the Scheidt sail has been on display there for some time and the black mainsheet and spliced yellow ropes on the vang have recently been added to PSA's website. So clearly a Laser with Torch sticker applied. Seems like a strange and unnecessarily provocative action from PSA.
  3. Why are you doing this? Pushing your own boat at the demise of another is not constructive to the sport. I see it as a selfish act. Couldn't agree more. Find another way to promote your new boat and come back here when you've sold 200,000 of them