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  1. Sold everything to sail the world...boat sunk on day 2

    I'll second that. I was catching up on the past 3 pages of posts and wow, its been entertaining, educational and very little about the pair of star-eyed youtube entrepreneurs and the mess that they created. Any news that their hull has been pulled off the bar? That is one pass where I would not be surprised that the boat had not shifted into deeper water and then struck by one of the Hubbard 'head' boats.
  2. Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    I forgot the proper presentation... I admire how the design provides two people a place to go stand after having an argument with a third person at the back of the boat. - Stumbling
  3. Mocking Ads on Craigslist

    https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/bpo/d/sail-catamaran-prout/6500306651.html A classic old cruising cat, until you look close at the bows. A lot of "Nautical Engineering and Architecture" went into that one. - Stumbling
  4. Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    How about double the carrying capacity: https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/bpo/d/sail-catamaran-prout/6500306651.html - Stumbling
  5. Coolboats to admire

    I could not tell if it was just the regular raised deck model or the economy sports-fishing edition! - Stumbling
  6. R2AK 2018

    I would be concerned with fatiguing of the flexible shaft, as well as the strut that is holding the thrust bearing. Engineering types can calculate up the fatigue wear on the shafts and struts, but you really don't know until you try. I would think you would want to have a spares from your output drive all the way back (or forward, depending on orientation) to the propeller. The strut would have to be beefier than the Willoughby pictures to be a little more debris resistant. I would think something more like a long-tail/mud-motor out drive would be a more robust system: There would be a lot of lightening involved to come up with a more sailboat friendly drive, and I would also have some floatation built in to the cavitation plate. You could even have a universal or flex plate at the top and let it float up and down on the water. Again, this is designed to screw itself through a range of fluids from water to mud. A R2Ak outdrive could be much lighter, yet be able to ride up and over a dead head (floating tree, not a floating trippy person) with no damage to the strut or prop. Stumbling
  7. R2AK 2018

    You may also want to check out parts from RC Inboard racing boats. The old school transom drives used flex shafts, like you were describing as well as thrust bearings that you are looking for. Most now are straight shafts for surface piercing drives with the prop half in the water. The big models use motors originally from weed eaters, so the hardware should be scaled up to the size you are looking for. Example website for parts: https://www.bonzisports.com/hardware/out-drive Stumbling
  8. Mocking Ads on Craigslist

    When I first saw this and read the first line of Uncooperative's text, I thought, how nice, someone is selling a motor on a stand that is sitting underwater, how honest of them... It took a bit to figure out that it was a humidity picture. Stumbling
  9. Fazisi Front Page

    No harm, no foul, no problem! Stumbling....
  10. Fazisi Front Page

    Even if the boat was a wave dagger, it is sorry to see her bones picked clean by the offspring of KW wreckers. Its a undignified end. Stumbling
  11. Fazisi Front Page

    Snort! I don't know how my signature line could be construed as Kuli being post race navigationally deficient... But oh well.. Stumbling...thunder
  12. Fazisi Front Page

    I think he is down in Sarasota, FL. I see him at the occasional regatta in Tampa Bay. Stumbling
  13. why am i here?

    I have had that wonderful thought a number of times in my sailing life. I have had a number of times out chasing cold fronts on my short sailboards in my youth where I had hypothermia creep up on me, which started to make waterstarts difficult. A few times I started to worry that I was not going to make it back. Crewing on Picante, a Soverel 33 that had been given IOR 'improvements' in the 1986 SORC. The improvements included messing up the underwater lines with hollows and bumps, plus the inboard motor was mounted in where the forward v-berth was located. We were the smallest and slowest boat in the fleet, but we were definitely not 'Death from Behind.' Two of the races in the series we DNF'ed because of time limits. This was not a near death experience, more like an endless visit to Purgatory. From that experience, I made the rule for myself to be on the biggest boat I can possibly get on for racing. Delivering the J-35 Man-o-war, from Mo-Bay to Antigua. The first night out was 45 knots on the nose, #4, 3 reefs in the main and square waves. The BN of the boat, Puchi, had no touch on the helm and was dropping the boat off the tops of the waves. I came up and took over. In the first 10 minutes on the helm, I was deep into 'Why am I here?' I was worried that we would split the hull in bow or have a rigging failure from the drops we were doing. It was pitch black, all sailing was by braille. At 15 minutes, I figured out that if I gave a good yank on the tiller when I felt the deceleration in the climb to the top of the wave, I could keep the hull attached to the back of the wave and not slam into the bottom of the trough. Then it just became a matter of endurance until the wind died down a bit, as I did not want Puchi back on the helm. Aint it fun! Stumbling
  14. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    "When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything sounds like the boat." Bang - sharp resound from boat, laminates good there. Thump - dull or crackly response, uh-oh, delamination.... Stumbling
  15. Mocking Ads on Craigslist

    There are a number of smaller lakes that do have a 10hp limit on them. I worked on the waterfront of Lake Wauberg in Gainesville for two years and that lake had a horsepower limit. Also, longshafts under 25hp were used as auxiliary (get home motor) for offshore outboard fishing boats that either did not have the transom room for full sized twin engines or that the O did not want to pay for two large motors. Stumbling