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  1. Coolboats to admire

    Furled mizzen and reefed main, heeling nearly twenty in what looks like 16-18Kts true. What do they do when the breeze really pipes up? I visited Richmond Yacht Club in the Bay area last winter and was impressed with the number of Wylie designed, wishbone boomed, hot looking boats and asked one of the owners how the local, blowing like stink conditions treated them. He said it was a good rig for short handing in a breeze but they had to chicken jibe when going downwind.
  2. Craigslist! What do you think of this boat?

    That swim platform isn't really. I have one like it on my B 40.7 and I can pull myself up on it but I bet a lot of wives, girlfriends and young kids couldn't. There's a ladder you install for swim egress but you could have that on just about any boat. My other issue with those Pininfarina, blister coachroof designs is the narrow side decks. I admit the Eurotrash look doesn't appeal to me but side decks have a practicality that you will appreciate if you try going forward on that thing in anything like sporty conditions. Some good alternatives have been proposed. Look 'em all over carefully.
  3. Best Owner/Skipper

    His starts aren't that bad either. + 1000 on the other stuff.
  4. I understand the channel the developer is required to dredge is protected eelgrass habitat. How are they getting past the tree huggers for that one? The Bay is a challenging place to learn to sail in small boats. Shelter Cove is one of the few areas of protected water and it's in constant use as an instructional venue. Where do you go if it's denied you? In contrast, there is plenty of less protected shoreline where larger boats can be accommodated. To me it sounds like the developer really doesn't care about more than the bottom line. My son instructs at that center and coaches a high school team. He told me once some of his kids have lived in the E Bay area and never seen the water. It's a very fulfilling thing to see them become acclimated to what has, for them, been an unrealizable experience and learn to trust themselves both on and in the water. Those kids, the ones that need the most sheltered water possible to nurture their budding interest, are the ones who will be shut out completely under this plan. I'm not one who rails automatically against every development project out of a misplaced desire to keep things as they are. The developer is seeing the opportunity to make big money and I can't blame him but the jurisdictional authorities have to look beyond financial returns to judge highest and best use. If we want to see our pastime broaden its appeal to the general population we have to get behind efforts to block this kind of project.
  5. Blue water performance cruiser - do they exist?

    I could never afford one but a J-160, or one like it, would be a good start for me. I was at a boat show looking at one and heard the story, might be one of those for sale actually, that the owner, then 65, and his somewhat younger wife made it back to Long Beach from Catalina in a good blow under main only. Took 'em about two and a half hours, if I had the story correctly. If that fits the OP's budget, I'd recommend he take a look.
  6. My newest project

    Bob, I think Flikr is way better looking than that CT54. Probably couldn't put enough teak in the lower freeboard design for Taiwan but I like it much better.
  7. My son instructs at that center and coaches a high school team. He told me once some of his kids have lived in the E Bay area and never seen the water. It's a very fulfilling thing to see them become acclimated to what has, for them, been an unrealizable experience and learn to trust themselves both on and in the water. Those kids, the ones that need the most sheltered water possible to nurture their budding interest, are the ones who will be shut out completely under this plan. I'm not one who rails automatically against every development project out of a misplaced desire to keep things as they are. The developer is seeing the opportunity to make big money and I can't blame him but the jurisdictional authorities have to look beyond financial returns to judge highest and best use. If we want to see our pastime broaden its appeal to the general population we have to get behind efforts to block this kind of project.
  8. Svendsen's Boatworks To Close 11/1/17

    Simplistic and uninformed. Take state highways: California's state highway system ranks fourth worst in the country in spite of the fact that most of the states doing better have much worse weather to deal with. So, we passed into law a big tax increase on gasoline, diesel and auto sales. Did that fix the problem? 20% of the money went to road repair. The other 60% went to pet boondoggles. But that 20% that did get spent was 4.7 times the per mile expenditure average for all states. And our roads are still a disgrace. Sacramento is our problem, not Prop 13. I know, I know, take it to PA. California has become the most dysfunctional state in the nation. If my kids weren't here I'd leave.
  9. New old sailer

    Them as can play tennis. Others play pickle ball.
  10. Svendsen's Boatworks To Close 11/1/17

    Damn, had my boat surveyed there last November. They seemed to have a lot of business going at that time. Can't be good to lose a competitive yard. Prices went way up in SD when Kettenburg's closed years ago.
  11. Sidestay tension, why does it matter?

    I'm far from well versed on this subject but it needs to be stressed that compression, whether from honking on the backstay or runners, which are the primary means of controlling headstay sag and its attendant effect on heeling moment and pointing ability, will shorten the distance between the partners and hounds which, in turn, slackens cap stays and diagonals which in turn causes the mast to bend out of lateral column, either hooking to leeward or causing sinusoidal bend(s) in the mid section. Simply boning on the the shrouds until the mast stays straight in all conditions will restrict mast bend which, depending upon the type of rig and boat, may hamper sail shape and performance. So, tuning is a balancing act of competing factors meant to arrive at the optimum for a given set of conditions on a given rig setup. Don't ask me to explain further because this is about all I know.
  12. The nightly movie is cancelled until morale improves.
  13. From the "WTF" files

    Is there a Dumb Crook Anarchy?
  14. Wht havent' multihulls taken the world by storm

    How much was from the crate and how much from the warp itself?
  15. Coolboats to admire

    I understand teak is rapidly becoming "unobtainium". What will they get to replace it, Ipe? Brazilian Rosewood? I built a deck at my house of Rosewood and the planks were nearly perfect when I sold the house ten years later. But that wasn't in a marine environment and I have no idea if any substitute has been found short of that synthetic stuff.