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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. This year's Viper 640 PCCs will be held in conjunction with the Columbia Gorge One Design Regatta, July 28-30. Notice of Race and Registration at http://www.regattanetwork.com/event/14344
  2. Here's the Fort Walton YC Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/Viper640NorthAmericanChampionships
  3. Great pics...thanks for sharing. Looked like great conditions and a ton of fun. See y'all in Bermuda. Cheers, John
  4. Well done! I noticed in the results that 2 of the GP 26's have PHRF ratings of 78 and the third 81. Is the only difference the size of the main?
  5. Is higher or lower faster? Is this a single rating handicap? How is it used to adjust times? My limited experience with the Viper was that it really had two ratings: - 60 with some reaching legs and enough breeze to plane - 140 in a light air windward leeward. In PHRF NE Viper is 99, Melges 24 is 102, J70 117. Didn't find the others. As far as I understand it is a single rating and higher is faster. Rating x Elapsed = Corrected Our Aussie friends will be able to shed more light but essentially it's a measurement rule for sport boats between 5.8m and 8.5m that have a minimum rating (Time Correction Factor) of 0.755. Note: J70's do not rate high enough under the rule but have been allowed. The constitution is at http://www.asba.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Australian-Sports-Boat-Association-Constitution.pdf Out here in BC, the Viper is 108 with outboard-99 without, and a Melges 24 is 99. We don't have any local J70's locally.
  6. For more objective numbers take a look at the Sports Boat Measurement System (SMS) used by the Australian Sports Boat Association. The measured ratings (TCF) in OD trim are: Melges 24: 0.800 Viper 640: 0.778 VX One: 0.771 J70: 0.726 See http://www.asba.org.au/current-sms-ratings/
  7. Portsmouth, RI.
  8. I agree that both boats are great but take the contrary view as I considered both and preferred the Viper. We raced in a Viper fleet with a VX added once shortly after I got the boat and they brought up the rear but I don't know the quality of the sailors on it at the time. I'm not sure where the idea of structural issues comes from but I've been very happy with mine. It's been a blast to sail and I'm sure the VX is as well. Cheers, John
  9. You're going to get different biases from people owning different boats eg., I would suggest you take a good look at a Viper 640 but take a sail on all of the boats that you are considering. You should also consider what type of help you might get from other owners and the Class Association, if there is one. I went through a similar process 4 years ago and took a road trip to SoCal to sail on a couple of the boats that made my short list and after careful consideration about the boat itself and the support from the Class/other owners that the Viper was the way to go even though I was the first one in Vancouver. That was my experience and yours might be different depending on where you are located.
  10. thanks for the info, will try to get info from S2 class org.The seller tells me it will go above 10 knots when board up in 15 to 20 knts Surfing down a wave maybe but you might want to have the board down. It looks like you're from Montreal so you can also give Spike, Brad or Tac Boston a call at the Doyle Boston Loft in Sarnia, ON. Nobody knows the boat better!
  11. The S2 7.9 is a great all round performer but it does not plane. As a former owner I think it's the best racer/cruiser of its size. Racing it loves to go upwind and then downwind with the board up. It is truly a giant killer in the hands of a good skipper and crew and has a good OD Class Association. I would suggest that you touch base with the class via http://s279.org.
  12. Yes, and cause fed, state and local governments to spend $$$$ on policing it!