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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

Millski

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  1. I can Wright a lot of words, but do they mean anything. on web forums like this they need to get thru to people. I have now the second generation of the family. They will NOT go to Geelong. Sad yes, but tru., Bye. Millski
  2. Sailing. friendship, and a little fun. is that such a problem. Or greed?
  3. I agree totally Geelong is on the way out MONEY MONEY MONEY. NOT NO MORE! Bring back the bar tickets (I Still have some) and the Lions club and mate ship, not some wanker rich arse sponsor for 3 yachts or so. Jesus i agree with that fat smelly walrus and co. How many sailors new the geelong of old ? FUN, FROLICKING AND FRIENDSHIP (Opps wheres the borroca) Millski
  4. 1. The fence and the marina are both paid for. 2. Were RYCV protected by a cute little rock wall from the Northerlies, a floating marina would work, however, until some effective form of wave and ship surge attenuation is available it's not an option. 3. If you aren't capable of making the jump from pier to bow carrying a slab of beer in one hand, a winch handle in your teeth and the A2 in your other hand, should you be sailing at all? And I hope you drank that slab, HAPPY BIRTHDAY Walrus !!!!!!!! all be it a bit late. As for the Marina it will be staying for a while (about 20 new piles have been banged in), until we can get dredging and wave / surge attenuation sorted. SO GET USED TO IT. Cheers [hickup]
  5. At the risk of opening the pandora's box again ... wonder how that will effect the IRC rating? I think it came from NFI (Tassie) and took over 3 months to cure, also some more magic bits coming. IRC is going down
  6. What's your point? I thought you might like to know, you seem to know everything else. Thank you for the compliment. Am I allowed to say you are very wrong? Or will I get more shit for it? would you believe 750 Square NM, Mr Smart WTF? WTFF?
  7. What's your point? I thought you might like to know, you seem to know everything else. Thank you for the compliment. Am I allowed to say you are very wrong? Or will I get more shit for it? would you believe 750 Square NM, Mr Smart
  8. What's your point? I thought you might like to know, you seem to know everything else.
  9. I take issue with that, because in fact they were run for nothing by volunteers working out of the clubs themselves. It is also well known that so called "Peak Bodies" have an extremely nasty habit of deciding that their agenda is more important than the agenda of their constituents and the tail begins to wag the dog, especially if Government grants are available to the tail. What then happens is that the Government and the "Peak Body" then proceed to fuck over everybody else as they pursue their own agendas and forget ours. This normally manifests itself as a refusal of Government to listen to anyone except the Peak Body, effectively shutting out everyone else. Thus the state of the sport becomes in Governments eyes what Yachting Australia or Yachting Victoria says it is. Looking at Yachting Australia, all I see are a bunch of clowns focussed on that stinking pile of corruption, shite and monumental egos called the Olympics. You do SFA for me. When I look at Yachting Victoria, I see a similar mess. RBYC, RYCV, QCYC and God knows who else in other clubs have had monumental shit fights with Parks Victoria for around Five years now over their leases. Where the Fuck is Yachting Victoria? Up Parks Victoria's arse or something? Where the fuck is an integrated plan for decent public marina facilities for Port Phillip and Westernport? Where the Fuck is the constant public and private advocacy for the same? Where the fuck is the organised resistance against the NIMBYs and greenies who not only don't want to see any more marina or club development, they actually want to destroy and remove what we already have? Don't you fuckers understand that our marine facilities are crap by WA, Qld and even NSW standards? Where the fuck was Yachting Victoria on the clusterfuck that is Martha Cove? Where are you on the clusterfuck that is Queenscliffe harbour? Where the fuck is an integrated plan to get schools to introduce sailing as a legitimate sport? What are you going to do when, at the height of the current recession, if not sooner, some fucking property developer yet again makes a grab for waterfront land? Where is your advocacy against the prevalent (and popular with the media) view that yachtsmen are a bunch of filthy rich arseholes that should be made to pay through the nose? Where is your educational material for journalists and Government about the cost, average boat age, distribution, owner and crew demographics, participation rates of crew, and economic value (including job creation) to the State of yacht construction, sail building, vessel maintenance and repair, as well as clubhouse activities? Do you know for example what the perimeter of Port Phillip bay is? (264 km). Do you know what the length of that is taken up by Yacht club facilities? (about 300m) Do you know that there was a major shitfight with the previous labor government under Cain/Kirner over public access, and that we (the volunteers) won? Do you think you could repeat that effort today? I don't think so. Where the fuck is the constant effective and unending promotion of yachting clubs and the sport to the General public (and the annual "learn to sail day" was borrowed from RYCV)? Where the fuck is your safety promotion, educational material and collated safety statistics with which to keep the Government from legislating us out of existence? Don't you underrstand that the Water police would like nothing better then the ability to determine when it's "safe' for us to sail? Do you want us to have to get "sailing licences" to go with that asinine boating licence. Why the fuck did my second club disaffiliate from you? Could it have been that the club refused to pay your Yachting Victoria tax since all members are members of other clubs? Then there is your so called insurance policy. I know of someone who suffered Two broken legs in a Yacht race starting incident. Is she happy about your so called insurance policy? Why is it that we can run world championships here involving 100+ boats and not one single fucking word about them makes it into the Victorian media? Could that be because you don't have a clue about media? Or to put another way, why the fuck do the newspapers print the results of even the under twelve girls impaired netball league (south eastern division) yet not one yachting result? And the answer is because you clowns have made our sport fucking invisible to the rest of the community and given the Government a licence to rape us over and over again at it's leisure. And don't try and fob me off with the standard "it's all being done behind closed doors" line - that's bullshit because I have my own sources. I can't answer most of your questions because I am not a part of YV or YA. I do know that most of your questions are about stuff that IS NOT in YV domain. "Where the fuck is an integrated plan for decent public marina facilities for Port Phillip and Westernport? Where the Fuck is the constant public and private advocacy for the same? " What the fuck has that got to do with YV? "Don't you fuckers understand that our marine facilities are crap by WA, Qld and even NSW standards?" We all know that but WTF do you expect YV to do about it? "Or to put another way, why the fuck do the newspapers print the results of even the under twelve girls impaired netball league (south eastern division) yet not one yachting result?"If the results of your events are not in the paper - it;s probably because your club told no-one. "Why is it that we can run world championships here involving 100+ boats and not one single fucking word about them makes it into the Victorian media? Could that be because you don't have a clue about media?" see above. We all know that no matter how much we might complain about it, it is extremely difficult to get anything about sailing in the media in Melbourne. YV DID manage to get some in last December. I saw it on TV & in the papers. You probably didn't look. "Where the fuck is an integrated plan to get schools to introduce sailing as a legitimate sport?" See Docklands racing last weekend. It happens at the beginers level also. If you looked you would know. "Where the fuck is your safety promotion, educational material and collated safety statistics with which to keep the Government from legislating us out of existence? Don't you underrstand that the Water police would like nothing better then the ability to determine when it's "safe' for us to sail? Do you want us to have to get "sailing licences" to go with that asinine boating licence." YV do represent ALL clubs collectivly with the various authorities. Did you know that MSV could (but don't) enforce the laws that all club training boats & all club powerboats involved in training should be commercially registered & in survey, and that anyone steering them must have a Coxswains? If your club tried alone do you think they would take any notice of a small group of people? If YV has a "win" over any of the various "authorities" it would be a stupid thing to gloat over it publicly. Why form a club? Because you can get things done as a group. Why have a Peak Body? DITTO - with more voice. United we stand. Divided we fall. "Do you know for example what the perimeter of Port Phillip bay is? (264 km). Do you know what the length of that is taken up by Yacht club facilities? (about 300m) Do you know that there was a major shitfight with the previous labor government under Cain/Kirner over public access, and that we (the volunteers) won? Do you think you could repeat that effort today? I don't think so." I know all about that. Typical Labour stupidity. PS I know how big Port Phillip is. I've raced around it over a 100 times. So you sailed 100 times in Port Phillip how big is Port Phillip ? Ok Try this 1,042 Square Nautical Miles (1,930 Km2) a Lot of water to look after.
  10. I take issue with that, because in fact they were run for nothing by volunteers working out of the clubs themselves. It is also well known that so called "Peak Bodies" have an extremely nasty habit of deciding that their agenda is more important than the agenda of their constituents and the tail begins to wag the dog, especially if Government grants are available to the tail. What then happens is that the Government and the "Peak Body" then proceed to fuck over everybody else as they pursue their own agendas and forget ours. This normally manifests itself as a refusal of Government to listen to anyone except the Peak Body, effectively shutting out everyone else. Thus the state of the sport becomes in Governments eyes what Yachting Australia or Yachting Victoria says it is. Looking at Yachting Australia, all I see are a bunch of clowns focussed on that stinking pile of corruption, shite and monumental egos called the Olympics. You do SFA for me. When I look at Yachting Victoria, I see a similar mess. RBYC, RYCV, QCYC and God knows who else in other clubs have had monumental shit fights with Parks Victoria for around Five years now over their leases. Where the Fuck is Yachting Victoria? Up Parks Victoria's arse or something? Where the fuck is an integrated plan for decent public marina facilities for Port Phillip and Westernport? Where the Fuck is the constant public and private advocacy for the same? Where the fuck is the organised resistance against the NIMBYs and greenies who not only don't want to see any more marina or club development, they actually want to destroy and remove what we already have? Don't you fuckers understand that our marine facilities are crap by WA, Qld and even NSW standards? Where the fuck was Yachting Victoria on the clusterfuck that is Martha Cove? Where are you on the clusterfuck that is Queenscliffe harbour? Where the fuck is an integrated plan to get schools to introduce sailing as a legitimate sport? What are you going to do when, at the height of the current recession, if not sooner, some fucking property developer yet again makes a grab for waterfront land? Where is your advocacy against the prevalent (and popular with the media) view that yachtsmen are a bunch of filthy rich arseholes that should be made to pay through the nose? Where is your educational material for journalists and Government about the cost, average boat age, distribution, owner and crew demographics, participation rates of crew, and economic value (including job creation) to the State of yacht construction, sail building, vessel maintenance and repair, as well as clubhouse activities? Do you know for example what the perimeter of Port Phillip bay is? (264 km). Do you know what the length of that is taken up by Yacht club facilities? (about 300m) Do you know that there was a major shitfight with the previous labor government under Cain/Kirner over public access, and that we (the volunteers) won? Do you think you could repeat that effort today? I don't think so. Where the fuck is the constant effective and unending promotion of yachting clubs and the sport to the General public (and the annual "learn to sail day" was borrowed from RYCV)? Where the fuck is your safety promotion, educational material and collated safety statistics with which to keep the Government from legislating us out of existence? Don't you underrstand that the Water police would like nothing better then the ability to determine when it's "safe' for us to sail? Do you want us to have to get "sailing licences" to go with that asinine boating licence. Why the fuck did my second club disaffiliate from you? Could it have been that the club refused to pay your Yachting Victoria tax since all members are members of other clubs? Then there is your so called insurance policy. I know of someone who suffered Two broken legs in a Yacht race starting incident. Is she happy about your so called insurance policy? Why is it that we can run world championships here involving 100+ boats and not one single fucking word about them makes it into the Victorian media? Could that be because you don't have a clue about media? Or to put another way, why the fuck do the newspapers print the results of even the under twelve girls impaired netball league (south eastern division) yet not one yachting result? And the answer is because you clowns have made our sport fucking invisible to the rest of the community and given the Government a licence to rape us over and over again at it's leisure. And don't try and fob me off with the standard "it's all being done behind closed doors" line - that's bullshit because I have my own sources. I can't answer most of your questions because I am not a part of YV or YA. I do know that most of your questions are about stuff that IS NOT in YV domain. "Where the fuck is an integrated plan for decent public marina facilities for Port Phillip and Westernport? Where the Fuck is the constant public and private advocacy for the same? " What the fuck has that got to do with YV? "Don't you fuckers understand that our marine facilities are crap by WA, Qld and even NSW standards?" We all know that but WTF do you expect YV to do about it? "Or to put another way, why the fuck do the newspapers print the results of even the under twelve girls impaired netball league (south eastern division) yet not one yachting result?"If the results of your events are not in the paper - it;s probably because your club told no-one. "Why is it that we can run world championships here involving 100+ boats and not one single fucking word about them makes it into the Victorian media? Could that be because you don't have a clue about media?" see above. We all know that no matter how much we might complain about it, it is extremely difficult to get anything about sailing in the media in Melbourne. YV DID manage to get some in last December. I saw it on TV & in the papers. You probably didn't look. "Where the fuck is an integrated plan to get schools to introduce sailing as a legitimate sport?" See Docklands racing last weekend. It happens at the beginers level also. If you looked you would know. "Where the fuck is your safety promotion, educational material and collated safety statistics with which to keep the Government from legislating us out of existence? Don't you underrstand that the Water police would like nothing better then the ability to determine when it's "safe' for us to sail? Do you want us to have to get "sailing licences" to go with that asinine boating licence." YV do represent ALL clubs collectivly with the various authorities. Did you know that MSV could (but don't) enforce the laws that all club training boats & all club powerboats involved in training should be commercially registered & in survey, and that anyone steering them must have a Coxswains? If your club tried alone do you think they would take any notice of a small group of people? If YV has a "win" over any of the various "authorities" it would be a stupid thing to gloat over it publicly. Why form a club? Because you can get things done as a group. Why have a Peak Body? DITTO - with more voice. United we stand. Divided we fall. "Do you know for example what the perimeter of Port Phillip bay is? (264 km). Do you know what the length of that is taken up by Yacht club facilities? (about 300m) Do you know that there was a major shitfight with the previous labor government under Cain/Kirner over public access, and that we (the volunteers) won? Do you think you could repeat that effort today? I don't think so." I know all about that. Typical Labour stupidity. PS I know how big Port Phillip is. I've raced around it over a 100 times. So you sailed 100 times in Port Phillip how big is Port Phillip ?
  11. Eh, I think they are adjusting the keel so it won't Cant
  12. RANGE RACE THIS SAT Range Series One McCutcheon Cup When,Sat, Oct 11, 2:00pm – 5:30pm DescriptionRace: J3-H-D
  13. Not called valiant