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Millski

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About Millski

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  • Birthday 11/22/1956

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    Motor Bikes, Yachting, and Brass bands with jazz.
  1. I can Wright a lot of words, but do they mean anything. on web forums like this they need to get thru to people. I have now the second generation of the family. They will NOT go to Geelong. Sad yes, but tru., Bye. Millski
  2. Sailing. friendship, and a little fun. is that such a problem. Or greed?
  3. I agree totally Geelong is on the way out MONEY MONEY MONEY. NOT NO MORE! Bring back the bar tickets (I Still have some) and the Lions club and mate ship, not some wanker rich arse sponsor for 3 yachts or so. Jesus i agree with that fat smelly walrus and co. How many sailors new the geelong of old ? FUN, FROLICKING AND FRIENDSHIP (Opps wheres the borroca) Millski
  4. 1. The fence and the marina are both paid for. 2. Were RYCV protected by a cute little rock wall from the Northerlies, a floating marina would work, however, until some effective form of wave and ship surge attenuation is available it's not an option. 3. If you aren't capable of making the jump from pier to bow carrying a slab of beer in one hand, a winch handle in your teeth and the A2 in your other hand, should you be sailing at all? And I hope you drank that slab, HAPPY BIRTHDAY Walrus !!!!!!!! all be it a bit late. As for the Marina it will be staying for a while (about 20 new piles have been banged in), until we can get dredging and wave / surge attenuation sorted. SO GET USED TO IT. Cheers [hickup]
  5. At the risk of opening the pandora's box again ... wonder how that will effect the IRC rating? I think it came from NFI (Tassie) and took over 3 months to cure, also some more magic bits coming. IRC is going down
  6. What's your point? I thought you might like to know, you seem to know everything else. Thank you for the compliment. Am I allowed to say you are very wrong? Or will I get more shit for it? would you believe 750 Square NM, Mr Smart WTF? WTFF?
  7. What's your point? I thought you might like to know, you seem to know everything else. Thank you for the compliment. Am I allowed to say you are very wrong? Or will I get more shit for it? would you believe 750 Square NM, Mr Smart
  8. What's your point? I thought you might like to know, you seem to know everything else.
  9. I take issue with that, because in fact they were run for nothing by volunteers working out of the clubs themselves. It is also well known that so called "Peak Bodies" have an extremely nasty habit of deciding that their agenda is more important than the agenda of their constituents and the tail begins to wag the dog, especially if Government grants are available to the tail. What then happens is that the Government and the "Peak Body" then proceed to fuck over everybody else as they pursue their own agendas and forget ours. This normally manifests itself as a refusal of Government to listen to anyone except the Peak Body, effectively shutting out everyone else. Thus the state of the sport becomes in Governments eyes what Yachting Australia or Yachting Victoria says it is. Looking at Yachting Australia, all I see are a bunch of clowns focussed on that stinking pile of corruption, shite and monumental egos called the Olympics. You do SFA for me. When I look at Yachting Victoria, I see a similar mess. RBYC, RYCV, QCYC and God knows who else in other clubs have had monumental shit fights with Parks Victoria for around Five years now over their leases. Where the Fuck is Yachting Victoria? Up Parks Victoria's arse or something? Where the fuck is an integrated plan for decent public marina facilities for Port Phillip and Westernport? Where the Fuck is the constant public and private advocacy for the same? Where the fuck is the organised resistance against the NIMBYs and greenies who not only don't want to see any more marina or club development, they actually want to destroy and remove what we already have? Don't you fuckers understand that our marine facilities are crap by WA, Qld and even NSW standards? Where the fuck was Yachting Victoria on the clusterfuck that is Martha Cove? Where are you on the clusterfuck that is Queenscliffe harbour? Where the fuck is an integrated plan to get schools to introduce sailing as a legitimate sport? What are you going to do when, at the height of the current recession, if not sooner, some fucking property developer yet again makes a grab for waterfront land? Where is your advocacy against the prevalent (and popular with the media) view that yachtsmen are a bunch of filthy rich arseholes that should be made to pay through the nose? Where is your educational material for journalists and Government about the cost, average boat age, distribution, owner and crew demographics, participation rates of crew, and economic value (including job creation) to the State of yacht construction, sail building, vessel maintenance and repair, as well as clubhouse activities? Do you know for example what the perimeter of Port Phillip bay is? (264 km). Do you know what the length of that is taken up by Yacht club facilities? (about 300m) Do you know that there was a major shitfight with the previous labor government under Cain/Kirner over public access, and that we (the volunteers) won? Do you think you could repeat that effort today? I don't think so. Where the fuck is the constant effective and unending promotion of yachting clubs and the sport to the General public (and the annual "learn to sail day" was borrowed from RYCV)? Where the fuck is your safety promotion, educational material and collated safety statistics with which to keep the Government from legislating us out of existence? Don't you underrstand that the Water police would like nothing better then the ability to determine when it's "safe' for us to sail? Do you want us to have to get "sailing licences" to go with that asinine boating licence. Why the fuck did my second club disaffiliate from you? Could it have been that the club refused to pay your Yachting Victoria tax since all members are members of other clubs? Then there is your so called insurance policy. I know of someone who suffered Two broken legs in a Yacht race starting incident. Is she happy about your so called insurance policy? Why is it that we can run world championships here involving 100+ boats and not one single fucking word about them makes it into the Victorian media? Could that be because you don't have a clue about media? Or to put another way, why the fuck do the newspapers print the results of even the under twelve girls impaired netball league (south eastern division) yet not one yachting result? And the answer is because you clowns have made our sport fucking invisible to the rest of the community and given the Government a licence to rape us over and over again at it's leisure. And don't try and fob me off with the standard "it's all being done behind closed doors" line - that's bullshit because I have my own sources. I can't answer most of your questions because I am not a part of YV or YA. I do know that most of your questions are about stuff that IS NOT in YV domain. "Where the fuck is an integrated plan for decent public marina facilities for Port Phillip and Westernport? Where the Fuck is the constant public and private advocacy for the same? " What the fuck has that got to do with YV? "Don't you fuckers understand that our marine facilities are crap by WA, Qld and even NSW standards?" We all know that but WTF do you expect YV to do about it? "Or to put another way, why the fuck do the newspapers print the results of even the under twelve girls impaired netball league (south eastern division) yet not one yachting result?"If the results of your events are not in the paper - it;s probably because your club told no-one. "Why is it that we can run world championships here involving 100+ boats and not one single fucking word about them makes it into the Victorian media? Could that be because you don't have a clue about media?" see above. We all know that no matter how much we might complain about it, it is extremely difficult to get anything about sailing in the media in Melbourne. YV DID manage to get some in last December. I saw it on TV & in the papers. You probably didn't look. "Where the fuck is an integrated plan to get schools to introduce sailing as a legitimate sport?" See Docklands racing last weekend. It happens at the beginers level also. If you looked you would know. "Where the fuck is your safety promotion, educational material and collated safety statistics with which to keep the Government from legislating us out of existence? Don't you underrstand that the Water police would like nothing better then the ability to determine when it's "safe' for us to sail? Do you want us to have to get "sailing licences" to go with that asinine boating licence." YV do represent ALL clubs collectivly with the various authorities. Did you know that MSV could (but don't) enforce the laws that all club training boats & all club powerboats involved in training should be commercially registered & in survey, and that anyone steering them must have a Coxswains? If your club tried alone do you think they would take any notice of a small group of people? If YV has a "win" over any of the various "authorities" it would be a stupid thing to gloat over it publicly. Why form a club? Because you can get things done as a group. Why have a Peak Body? DITTO - with more voice. United we stand. Divided we fall. "Do you know for example what the perimeter of Port Phillip bay is? (264 km). Do you know what the length of that is taken up by Yacht club facilities? (about 300m) Do you know that there was a major shitfight with the previous labor government under Cain/Kirner over public access, and that we (the volunteers) won? Do you think you could repeat that effort today? I don't think so." I know all about that. Typical Labour stupidity. PS I know how big Port Phillip is. I've raced around it over a 100 times. So you sailed 100 times in Port Phillip how big is Port Phillip ? Ok Try this 1,042 Square Nautical Miles (1,930 Km2) a Lot of water to look after.
  10. I take issue with that, because in fact they were run for nothing by volunteers working out of the clubs themselves. It is also well known that so called "Peak Bodies" have an extremely nasty habit of deciding that their agenda is more important than the agenda of their constituents and the tail begins to wag the dog, especially if Government grants are available to the tail. What then happens is that the Government and the "Peak Body" then proceed to fuck over everybody else as they pursue their own agendas and forget ours. This normally manifests itself as a refusal of Government to listen to anyone except the Peak Body, effectively shutting out everyone else. Thus the state of the sport becomes in Governments eyes what Yachting Australia or Yachting Victoria says it is. Looking at Yachting Australia, all I see are a bunch of clowns focussed on that stinking pile of corruption, shite and monumental egos called the Olympics. You do SFA for me. When I look at Yachting Victoria, I see a similar mess. RBYC, RYCV, QCYC and God knows who else in other clubs have had monumental shit fights with Parks Victoria for around Five years now over their leases. Where the Fuck is Yachting Victoria? Up Parks Victoria's arse or something? Where the fuck is an integrated plan for decent public marina facilities for Port Phillip and Westernport? Where the Fuck is the constant public and private advocacy for the same? Where the fuck is the organised resistance against the NIMBYs and greenies who not only don't want to see any more marina or club development, they actually want to destroy and remove what we already have? Don't you fuckers understand that our marine facilities are crap by WA, Qld and even NSW standards? Where the fuck was Yachting Victoria on the clusterfuck that is Martha Cove? Where are you on the clusterfuck that is Queenscliffe harbour? Where the fuck is an integrated plan to get schools to introduce sailing as a legitimate sport? What are you going to do when, at the height of the current recession, if not sooner, some fucking property developer yet again makes a grab for waterfront land? Where is your advocacy against the prevalent (and popular with the media) view that yachtsmen are a bunch of filthy rich arseholes that should be made to pay through the nose? Where is your educational material for journalists and Government about the cost, average boat age, distribution, owner and crew demographics, participation rates of crew, and economic value (including job creation) to the State of yacht construction, sail building, vessel maintenance and repair, as well as clubhouse activities? Do you know for example what the perimeter of Port Phillip bay is? (264 km). Do you know what the length of that is taken up by Yacht club facilities? (about 300m) Do you know that there was a major shitfight with the previous labor government under Cain/Kirner over public access, and that we (the volunteers) won? Do you think you could repeat that effort today? I don't think so. Where the fuck is the constant effective and unending promotion of yachting clubs and the sport to the General public (and the annual "learn to sail day" was borrowed from RYCV)? Where the fuck is your safety promotion, educational material and collated safety statistics with which to keep the Government from legislating us out of existence? Don't you underrstand that the Water police would like nothing better then the ability to determine when it's "safe' for us to sail? Do you want us to have to get "sailing licences" to go with that asinine boating licence. Why the fuck did my second club disaffiliate from you? Could it have been that the club refused to pay your Yachting Victoria tax since all members are members of other clubs? Then there is your so called insurance policy. I know of someone who suffered Two broken legs in a Yacht race starting incident. Is she happy about your so called insurance policy? Why is it that we can run world championships here involving 100+ boats and not one single fucking word about them makes it into the Victorian media? Could that be because you don't have a clue about media? Or to put another way, why the fuck do the newspapers print the results of even the under twelve girls impaired netball league (south eastern division) yet not one yachting result? And the answer is because you clowns have made our sport fucking invisible to the rest of the community and given the Government a licence to rape us over and over again at it's leisure. And don't try and fob me off with the standard "it's all being done behind closed doors" line - that's bullshit because I have my own sources. I can't answer most of your questions because I am not a part of YV or YA. I do know that most of your questions are about stuff that IS NOT in YV domain. "Where the fuck is an integrated plan for decent public marina facilities for Port Phillip and Westernport? Where the Fuck is the constant public and private advocacy for the same? " What the fuck has that got to do with YV? "Don't you fuckers understand that our marine facilities are crap by WA, Qld and even NSW standards?" We all know that but WTF do you expect YV to do about it? "Or to put another way, why the fuck do the newspapers print the results of even the under twelve girls impaired netball league (south eastern division) yet not one yachting result?"If the results of your events are not in the paper - it;s probably because your club told no-one. "Why is it that we can run world championships here involving 100+ boats and not one single fucking word about them makes it into the Victorian media? Could that be because you don't have a clue about media?" see above. We all know that no matter how much we might complain about it, it is extremely difficult to get anything about sailing in the media in Melbourne. YV DID manage to get some in last December. I saw it on TV & in the papers. You probably didn't look. "Where the fuck is an integrated plan to get schools to introduce sailing as a legitimate sport?" See Docklands racing last weekend. It happens at the beginers level also. If you looked you would know. "Where the fuck is your safety promotion, educational material and collated safety statistics with which to keep the Government from legislating us out of existence? Don't you underrstand that the Water police would like nothing better then the ability to determine when it's "safe' for us to sail? Do you want us to have to get "sailing licences" to go with that asinine boating licence." YV do represent ALL clubs collectivly with the various authorities. Did you know that MSV could (but don't) enforce the laws that all club training boats & all club powerboats involved in training should be commercially registered & in survey, and that anyone steering them must have a Coxswains? If your club tried alone do you think they would take any notice of a small group of people? If YV has a "win" over any of the various "authorities" it would be a stupid thing to gloat over it publicly. Why form a club? Because you can get things done as a group. Why have a Peak Body? DITTO - with more voice. United we stand. Divided we fall. "Do you know for example what the perimeter of Port Phillip bay is? (264 km). Do you know what the length of that is taken up by Yacht club facilities? (about 300m) Do you know that there was a major shitfight with the previous labor government under Cain/Kirner over public access, and that we (the volunteers) won? Do you think you could repeat that effort today? I don't think so." I know all about that. Typical Labour stupidity. PS I know how big Port Phillip is. I've raced around it over a 100 times. So you sailed 100 times in Port Phillip how big is Port Phillip ?
  11. Eh, I think they are adjusting the keel so it won't Cant
  12. RANGE RACE THIS SAT Range Series One McCutcheon Cup When,Sat, Oct 11, 2:00pm – 5:30pm DescriptionRace: J3-H-D
  13. Not called valiant