Renegade-27

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  1. Renegade-27

    Yet another Bene 'This or That'

    That is absolutely the case. Alternatively, if there are sail combinations that would still allow a lively sail without the need for the weight. I can do without extra hands. The boats got to be configured to sail without movable ballast. While every picture I see of a 36.7 has 8 people aboard, owners have also told me how easy it is to sail singlehanded due to the cockpit layout and that it sails well with a #3 and full main. Under 8kts or so, I expect I'll play with the Code 0. Does that swing the pendulum one way or another? Are there other boats that either do well or poorly on this criteria?
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    Yet another Bene 'This or That'

    Interesting, Kinardly. I will have to look into it. I never considered upping the interior finished. Whatever I would do would have to be completely reversible of course... Hmmm.... (just took a look at the interior... small volume won't cut it and one thing she enjoys is preparing simple/picnic meals aboard. No go on the galley! )
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    Yet another Bene 'This or That'

    Thanks, Steele. I've also looked at the 99. Just doesn't hit it for me. Maybe too small? I also heard it doesn't sail to its rating, as does (doesn't?) the 110 which would otherwise be an option also.
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    Yet another Bene 'This or That'

    Thanks Alex. I haven't been on one for several year. Sounds like that would disqualify it right off for us. I'm coming from a beautiful Jeanneau, my wife wouldn't stand for it!
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    Yet another Bene 'This or That'

    Sorry for the topic - I know how some of you dislike these - but I'm trying to decide between buying a newer Bene 10r or an older 36.7. There's a lot of experience participating here and I really would like to know your thoughts. I am a very experienced shorthanded club PHRF racer, 1-2 nights/wk plus regattas, but also most often single-handed daysailing (with the race only happening in my head). With either I plan to use primarily a #3 and Code 0 on rollers and an A2, masthead in either case (no Class racing here). My wife isn't a sailor, so of course the interior needs to be nice enough for her to stay overnight. A stiffer boat is also better as far as she is concerned. I like the idea of a newer boat/design but the cockpit layout and bulb keel of the 10r trouble me. I haven't seen a 10r in years, but it looks like all jib controls are ahead of a huge wheel (difficult to get around?). The notion of the bulb collecting seaweed (or my spinnaker sheet) isn't appealing. This one has a newer rudder so that isn't an issue. I know the 36.7 and while the deck aesthetics don't grab me it ticks all other boxes - but the boats on the market are getting old... Other things to consider when comparing these for single/shorthanded club racing and occasional overnight? Any other boats I should be considering?
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    36.7 or 109?

    Thanks, Cman. Do you singlehand the boat much? My kids are grown now and truth is for the most part the boat will be daysailed singlehanded (and a weekend couples camper). Yes - only one marina in the lake can handle sailboats of this size and its in a cove that I regularly read 6.6 / 6.8 ft. Marina warns at anything over 6'.
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    36.7 or 109?

    Thanks, Jackdaw. I think if I do go the Beneteau route, I'd sail it with a 105%, fit it for a code 0 and an asym - AND - have lots of bank left over compared to the 109.
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    36.7 or 109?

    Hi all - wracking my brain trying decide if the J109 is worth 50% more than the Bene 36.7. I do PHRF racing, short- or single- handed in generally light lake wind. I'm an engineer - 'technical' sailor - racing the polars and trimming sail all the time. We are limited to shoal draft for either (6' max on the lake) and there are few of each available now for sale. Anyone know how they do head-to-head? The PHRF is almost the same. Thanks for adding your thoughts and experiences!
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    Engineering Career in Sailing

    I'm a mechanical engineer working for a company that produces textiles and plastic films. I occasionally work on new (exotic) components for sail manufacturers. There's a TON of tech in sailmaking - structural analysis, aeromechanics, SAILING. We are also involved in composites for aerospace. I was able to apply some of the 3Di flexible composite (sail) concepts to a project we did for a project making process components for composite wings at Airbus. Both structural (rigid) composites and flexible composites (sails) are very complex with lots of progress to be made. Structural composites is an awesome field of engineering, although epoxy/fiberglass for consumer boats is already well understood and practiced so unless you get to work on exotics its all just plug and play. Roll back my career a few decades and I'd be knocking on some of the sail cloth or sail makers doors..... YMMV - good luck and keep us informed!
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    Rudders and roundup

    Thanks, Cmass. This weekend I was booking along with maybe 7 or 8 knots when a big black cloud appeared above us on the lake and I saw a big gust on the water ahead. I bore off to about 60-70 degrees, let off the main (dramatically) and loosened the jib. Wind hit at about 17-18, immediate roll to leeward (heel) followed by responding like a cork under water with the boat flying into and then through the wind. No chance in control at all. My wife screaming from down below how she'll never go sailing again (again ). I'm likely going to move on to my next boat. Got several in mind - - but that's a different thread.
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    Rudders and roundup

    Hey everybody - I love the general physics of sailing discussion, but really appreciate the specific comments. I also like seeing the pic of my "Sugar Mountain" (you can't be 20..). I do love her, while she steps on her foot dancing once in a while, serves as a fantastic hotel and swim platform.
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    Rudders and roundup

    Already in progress
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    Rudders and roundup

    The roller furler is actually very high which gives cruisers better visibility (I am told ). Jib could be in better shape - although I can flatten it out, the leach is starting to develop a permanent curl. Foot is pretty tight with the block in an aft posion.
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    Rudders and roundup

    20-30 degrees as measured from my rudder position sensor part of the autopilot. You can see relatively new sails - with the original sails it was virtually impossible to sail upwind at all.
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    Rudders and roundup

    This should help understand the position of the rudder - along with my computer measurements to see how much deeper the other rudder is! The rudder is right at the waterline. The hull aft of the rudder is almost board flat.