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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Maybe part of what is going on at the floor of the cockpit under the traveler. Maybe part of a mainsheet fine tune?
  2. yup, went under in 1990. Some of the larger boats were built by Pacific Seacraft for a few years, but most of the models went away with Ericson. A lot of the parts on these boats are made by other companies so yes you can still get similar replacement parts, sometimes new old stock, sometimes current production parts. It will all depend on what you need. Rig Rite has a lot of the original rigging parts for a lot of these old boats, Foss Foam may have rudder molds, etc. Replaceable items like standing rigging, lifelines, blocks, running rigging, can be fabricated or purchased locally or by order from rigging shops and the like. get the boat cleaned up and then figure out what you need. Ask here or on the Ericson site and you will be pointed in a direction.
  3. Check out the Ericson forum at http://www.ericsonyachts.org lots of good help and a fairly active owners group. There is also an Ericson Yachts facebook group. Congrats on the purchase!
  4. This one pops up through a Google search for "sailing anarchy sassy" http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/15800-sassy-anyone-know-her-history/
  5. Per the White House website: The closest Metrorail stations to the White House are Federal Triangle (blue and orange lines), Metro Center (blue, orange, and red lines) and McPherson Square (blue and orange lines). My best guess though is McPherson Square, Vermont Avenue exit or Metro Center station, 13th & G Street exit are probably your closest stops.
  6. My family owned a Mac 22 of the same vintage as the 25 you are looking at when I was a kid through college. Build quality was fine for a family goofing off on a lake during the summer. A buddy owns it now. It was a simple boat with no systems other than a stereo and running lights. I used it as a floating tent for most weekends in college. It was simple to rig, sail, and trailer. Used to have a brochure where they had a picture of it being towed by a Corvette. We used an old station wagon. M25 seems to be a somewhat scaled up version of the 22. Only spot that seemed wimpy as far as the build was the foredeck so check to see if it creaks when you walk on it. Never saw any cracks myself, but it made some interesting noises. It was relatively tender and would slide sideways if overpowered. When motoring make sure you have the swing keel down a few inches or the boat won't turn. Lots of 1980's vintage Catalinas, Odays, Hunters, Irwins, etc on the lake as a kid. Some had more features and nicer trim, more systems, etc, For flotation, the area under the v-berth was full of Styrofoam and the cockpit floor was supported by a huge block of foam that took up most of the area under the cockpit. I had a lot of fun with that boat.
  7. Agree with the Gori suggestion. Looks pretty similar to my new one.
  8. I've also had luck with dryer sheets left in the cabin of a smaller boat. Haven't tried it in our current boat. Kept a box on the table and pulled the top sheet off after each weekend. Another plus, it helped keep the boat smelling like dryer sheets. If you try it in the cabin, might want to make sure you buy ones you like the smell of. Not sure how well it would work on the sail on the boom or if they could harm the sail.
  9. Ajax, they typically have a sale price online for those as well. A couple years back I bought the EV100 tiller pilot during the warehouse sale.
  10. How about, take off old track and rivets, fill old holes. Epoxy a wood strip to the inside of the hull (with proper prep of course) and then screw the track into that. No new holes in the hull.
  11. It's possible the Defender website is causing the confusion on the pricing. They have a smaller package of IP2000E for $41.99 with a somewhat deceiving picture. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|2200442|2200444&id=1245053 but the gallon size is $98.99. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|2200442|2200444&id=728760 The Pettit Protect is $92.99. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|2200442|2200444&id=1796776
  12. For the Pettit stuff, we followed their recoat time recommendations which I think was 2.5 hours between coats at 70 degrees hull temp, with prep and everything we got two coats on the first day. The next day, we got the following 2 coats and the first coat of bottom paint. I let the bottom paint cure a week and then had them move the jackstands and then did those spots. I'm sure a pro who has more experience with these coatings can get it done quicker. With the 2.5 hours or so between coats, make sure you bring something to keep your help busy. I had food, beer, radio and chairs to keep us comfortable while we literally watched the paint dry. Looks like the IP stuff is 3 hours at 73 degrees hull temp... so similar wait times.
  13. Bull, looking back through my notes I went through almost 4 gallons, two of white and two of grey. I still have a bit left of each color from each can and it worked out to a little under a gallon per coat, so for me, 4 coats. I followed their recommendations on how many gallons for a 30 foot boat and looking at their current guide it is 3.75 gallons, which they estimated would work out to 3 coats. Per that I probably didn't get as good of a film thickness per coat, but made up for it in the number of coats. If I remember correctly, the IP needed more coats to get the same recommended thickness.
  14. For reference Bull, as you know, I did a barrier coat a couple years ago on my Olson 911 which is a 30 footer. I used the Pettit Protect product which supposedly has a higher build per coat than the IP 2000. I was using Pettit Trinidad bottom paint, so staying within the family made some sort of sense at the time. Anyway, I alternated colors between coats. Even with the color shift when it cured, I preferred the white to grey contrast between the coats to make sure I was getting complete coverage and wasn't missing any spots. After doing the recommended # of coats, I only had a little bit of each can left. So, in my case, not much waste. As far as sanding between coats, the primer does lay on pretty smooth with the right roller, but it is thick so it may not be racer approved burnished bottom smooth and if you are looking to get that level of result, then you may want to sand everything smooth a various points in the process. I was more concerned with re-coating within the hot coat windows to get the various coats to link and then the first coat of bottom paint hot coated as well. I'm not planning on seriously racing my boat right now, so I'll worry about the baby smooth bottom when that time comes and for now the bottom is good enough. I assume if you are going to sand it after doing all of that, you would add a coat or two extra and then the alternating colors let you track how far down you are sanding to maintain the primer thickness while being able to sand off any stipple left by the rollers. Rolling and tipping may help too, but the product kicked pretty quickly. Oh, an on the rollers, I used the West System epoxy rollers. They left a nice finish, but took a bit to get the technique down. If you weren't careful you would eat a roller in a few feet, but if you were, you could get a side of the boat out of one or more.
  15. I have a 30ST that has insides that look a lot like the one Alex showed pictures of. Thanks to this thread I contacted Winchspares. They have the parts and as Alex said, prices were reasonable. Thanks for starting the thread Alex, and thanks to those who made good recommendations, including reaching out to Winchspares.