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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Turbo Opti

    Open Box?
  2. Proa w/ roller furling

    It looks like Ryan is working through all the things learned in his passages to date. Adding more options for sail plan and eliminating complication and time from shunting are all good progress. It is great to see Jzerro getting exercised and preparing for new challenges. The challenge of keeping average pace above eight knots on the New York to San Francisco going around Cape Horn seems incredible. It seems that the challenge of finding continuous favorable winds/systems will be daunting. Proas deserve more attention ... this is a David versus Goliath story of epic potential - a single handed 36 foot Pacific Proa going against a previous catamaran winner almost three times longer and orders of magnitude more budget.
  3. I just bought a 'Mystery Dingy'! What is it?

    Thought I saw a couple suspicious spinnaker sheet fairleads on the stern. I think I saw one of these at either Fanshaw or Conestoga thirty years ago. Southern Ontario counterfeiter boats - it should attract Trumpian attention. An Ajax junk/flea market seller mall made the Nafta negotiations complaints documentation from our neighbours to the south. Looks like it may be cheap fun.
  4. I just bought a 'Mystery Dingy'! What is it?

    Two thoughts ... Might be a questionable copy of another design - hence the "less than or equal to" sail emblem. Doug Lord seems to like "Arrow" symbols on his foiling bathroom tub toys - maybe in the deep past he built a dinghy sized boat.
  5. Daybreak: You can get the overnight ferry from Nova Scotia/New Brunswick to Port aux Basques on the southwest corner of Newfoundland. It isn't cheap! This is the primary route for everyone coming or going to Newfoundland (if not by air). Once you get there you can get on the highway which takes you north and then east across the province. Newfoundlanders are the most friendly people on earth - do not be surprised to be welcomed into their homes as a stranger. There is a play on Broadway right now about Newfoundland hospitality called "Come from Away" about how the citizens of Gander took in hundreds of airplanes of people grounded there during 9/11 at the airport. "Come from Away" is what Newfoundlanders call anyone who has lived there less than six generations. They refer to Newfoundland as "The Granite Planet" - it is a world unto itself. They joined Canada as part of confederation in 1949 - they have steadfastly maintained their own unique culture and language idiosyncrasies. Their relationship to the Federal government in general is heavy with suspicion and runs to ignoring most mainland rules whenever it suits them. Newfoundland "worked" very well during centuries of being a fishery that could feed the world, but foreign industrial draggers started massive destruction of the fisheries with indiscriminate capture and killing off the fish stocks. Portugal and Spain were the worst offenders. The Canadian government was forced to shut down the complete fishing industry, destroying life in the outports and the whole fishing economy. Each outport town used to have a local canning/processing factory and was supported by government supply visits on a regular basis. Now with no fishery industry, the government can no longer afford to maintain outport communities, as there is no road infrastructure. This is why the dozens of formerly thriving communities have been shuttered. Only now, about forty years later are the fisheries just beginning to show some glimmer of recovery. It is a magical place worth seeing. -- Bill
  6. Have you ever been to Newfoundland? It sure isn't like the cottage-dotted coast of Maine. Many Most of the outport towns on the southern shore have been shuttered and people paid by the government to move out. There isn't any support or fresh water available, no marinas every twenty miles, no grocery stores and no local Coast Guard available to help. Search and Rescue is out of Greenwood in Nova Scotia. Hunt down the "Abandoned" TV show for a segment about empty Newfoundland outport towns. Rural Newfoundland is wild and unpopulated in a way Americans can not relate to. There is really only one (1!) highway across the middle of the province and most of the coastline doesn't have ANY road access. Hospitals are generally regionally based, each serving geography equivalent to a complete New England state in the US. Unfortunately many Newfoundland/Labrador youth end up leaving the province of their birth and move to other parts of Canada with better any job opportunities. You don't have to go north of Newfoundland to find icebergs, they can be found right off shore in spring and early summer. Greenland is another frightening story entirely. Canada isn't like the US, except within 150 miles of the US border. Most of my country is vast beyond comprehension, devoid of people and you can travel thousands of miles in the North without seeing more than a few people or a single Dunkin Donuts. If you stop on the southern shore you are far more likely to see moose or caribou than people. I'm not discouraging your from your adventures - I'm trying to give you some perspective on how tough it will be to provision and supply, how ridiculously expensive things are in remote places and how far from help you are if things go sideways. Warm and dry isn't a luxury in the North Atlantic, it is a survival necessity. Can you imagine paying $20 for a loaf of bread that is a month past best before date? At the only store within 100 miles? That is what things are like on the Labrador coast.
  7. Pretty big requirements list! It is missing any indication of financial constraints (everybody wants cheap - and cheap means very different things to different people) as well as prioritization of the requirements. My quick read made me think either Farrier or Dragonfly trailerable trimarans if money were no object. I'm of an age that makes basic camping comforts and dry accommodations a must. I'll be in Newfoundland later this month and there is no way I'd venture in those waters in a open boat. I'd personally choose a multihull for your itinerary because boat speed is really important when in the Fundy region. I've seen slow boats there making 5-6 knots forward speed, but going backwards due to tidal currents. There aren't a lot of bail out Plan B places when crossing from Maine to Yarmouth - a couple limited approaches to Grand Manaan come to mind. Crossing the Gulf of St. Lawrence isn't a trivial passage either - you need good nav & safety equipment as you are pretty much guaranteed time drifting in fog somewhere. I'd personally want really good radar reflectors, AIS and perhaps a radar set to keep me from becoming a tale of caution to others. You've got kids to raise and you can't just take chances like you have no responsibilities any more. Welcome to the forum and don't take offence to my perspective on your dream - I've lived with the same dreams. -- Bill
  8. 2017 Race to Alaska

    If I had to guess, might be Squitty Bay on the south end of Lasqueti Island. -- Bill
  9. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Just because no one else has posted a link I will: Russell Brown's return trip to Port Townsend Worth watching (for me at least) to see they fared given their motor burned up halfway home. You do get to see more details of the G32's systems in operation (because with two people on board doing camera work was far easer). -- Bill S.
  10. Sailing Speed Record

    Obviously you haven't ever been exposed to the power of a hurricane so you do not know this is a ridiculous concept. To put in into local terms, imagine being inside a wet cardboard barrel going down Niagara Falls continually for hours to days. There is no "sailing" in a hurricane the strength of Irma, there is only the microscopic potential of survival on the water. 300 kilometer per hour winds? One side of the hurricane blowing against the Gulf Stream? There is a good reason why insurance companies refuse to insure boats transiting within the hurricane season in the Caribbean. Even if you could build a hull strong enough to survive, you would be smashed around inside it like a soft banana in a blender.
  11. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Just noticed that ptwatercraft has posted the aforementioned video to youtube. Russell's Race to Alaska is worth watching. Watching the video segments (which Russell shot en route) gives you the opportunity to see things from his eyes. It is obvious that Russell was focused on deadheads and careful navigation as well as speed. I have to assume the videos were filmed in moments where Russell was relaxed enough to pick up a camera and engage the autopilot. Semi submerged 1,500 pound logs becoming visible 20 yards ahead of the boat going 15 knots has got to be nerve wracking. Single handed sailing of this race in boats in these waters this fast is much more dangerous than I imagined. With two crew you can at least take one set of eyes off the water in front of you for a break. I can see how the trip back from Ketchikan was more "fun" for Russell. The stress levels much have dropped tremendously.
  12. Proa: Perhaps tacking outrigger is a better label - but to the non-proa folks anything with a single ama and vaka is a proa. Although terminology is important to me as well, I was writing in Sailing Anarchy where there are few who know the difference. A huge amount of pointless energy goes into trying to explain the obvious to the general population. I'm perfectly aware of the distinctions, the historical online proa wars and the positives and negatives to each design variant. I personally have chosen to follow Russell's example of not proselytizing my preferences. Minimal investment for maximum performance leads very quickly to the undeniable conclusions both you and Russell reached long before I. -- Bill
  13. I've seen better pictures of this Nordic tacking proa - there is a workable open stern cockpit, and the bow section can open with clamshell style doors to each side to aid docking etc.. It was designed to be a pure cruising tacker, compromising prismatic for roominess in the cabin. There was limited RM due to the limited span on the amas - it was designed to navigate northern European canals - hence the tacking proa versus a trimaran. Like every boat the owner defined the compromises to meet his own needs and wasn't chasing speed over comfort. -- Bill
  14. 2017 Race to Alaska

    Russell: Regarding next year, if after enough time has passed you think it is worth doing, you should consider setting up a Go Fund Me page. Although you've spent most of your career dodging spotlights and avoiding attention I think you would have no problem raising funds to do the race. I'd certainly be willing to pledge a couple hundred as your books have helped me become a better boat builder. Your performance this year was in my opinion spectacular - efficient, sensible, mature and safe. If you had more fun and less stress on the return trip perhaps you should try to get Ashlyn to do both legs with you. From a business point of view PT Watercraft gained priceless publicity this year. The real work ahead is turning the publicity and good will into revenue for PT Watercraft. You have taught everyone who follows that youth, endurance, going far beyond sensible limits and taking risks is less important than making smart choices and running your own race. -- Bill Strosberg
  15. Singlehand 49'er?

    Foredeck Shuffle: I've sent you a PM about your challenges finding a boat. -- Bill