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    More Teams = Better Event (Usually)

    My thesis for this thread is that more teams and tighter competition is preferable to completely bonkers innovation, in my unsolicited opinion. I don't want a one-design event, but the class has to support discount entries as much as it supports the fully-funded teams. Maybe the AC75 will still deliver on that in future years, we'll see.
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    More Teams = Better Event (Usually)

    The 12 Meter rule existed for half a century before it was adopted by the AC, and it was the longest-lived Cup class by far. Is that not representative of the event?
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    More Teams = Better Event (Usually)

    That's been my main problem with the AC75 - yes, the AC has always been about innovation, but it's always been about evolution of sailing design concepts created elsewhere. Wing sails existed before they were in the AC, foiling cats existed before they were in AC. The AC has never been sailed in a whole new genre of boat invented for the event. If they wanted monohulls, accelerating the development of foil-assisted inshore keelboats would have made more sense, and had a better chance of trickle-down to something most of us might have a chance to sail in the foreseeable future.
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    Looking for 25-27 ft phrf rocket...

    Those are awesome boats, hope you find another!
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    Looking for 25-27 ft phrf rocket...

    If your only requirements are good performance to your rating in light air, take a look at some early fiberglass full-keel designs. They lean over and stop in heavy air, but they outsail their rating like crazy in the light stuff. Plus you can get a project boat with solid bones for a song and have plenty left over for sails. There's a Pearson Electra in my fleet that's a light-air rocketship, and something like an Ariel or Commander might do nicely for your length range. Bonus point if you can find a centerboarder. Some of those old fiberglass tanks often have solid decks, so there's nothing to recore. Or get a Melges or J/80. I acknowledge my tastes are eclectic.
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    Annapolis Performance Sailing - OFFICIALLY DEAD

    I was an APS customer for 20 years, right up until they stopped selling the stuff I wanted to buy from them.
  7. Something I never understood about this race - why is Cayard hollering so much about Prada's proper course to the umpires? He should just sail his proper course, and if Prada stays low, they'll either have to avoid or hit him. The proper course of the leeward boat is the one that matters, not the windward boat (unless the rules were different in 2000). Of course, now there's no more Rule 17 for match racing, so you can just luff them to the moon if you establish overlap from clear astern.
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    More Teams = Better Event (Usually)

    I think he was specifically talking about 2010. It was exciting to watch because we had no idea what the heck would happen, but 2 races was about all the drama that the design competition could sustain before it clearly became a mismatch. The AC has been most exciting when it was a design competition within a box that was narrow enough to still allow a decent sailboat race. I agree that OD runs counter to the principles of the event, but it's also not good when highly skilled sailors are reduced to jockeys getting a vastly superior machine around a course.
  9. I seem to remember reading that Sverige was the only 12 to have a tiller, at least in the postwar AC era. Looks like a lot of weather helm in that shot.
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    mike tyson

    As a yank with a serious soft spot for NZ (I spent 5 wonderful months racing sailboats and tramping studying at UoA in my college years), I get it. I was making my case strictly based on on-the-water accomplishments. At least here in the US, we tend to discount a breathtaking number of character flaws in evaluating our athletes. Coutts definitely had a major hand in changing the overall complexion of the America's Cup, and not for the better, but he was a hell of a driver.
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    mike tyson

    It's hard to compare apples to apples, even in the same era, because every event is different. Quality of competition is hard to judge from year to year. Conner, for example, nearly outsailed a faster boat in 83, and won a very competitive challenger series in 87. I wouldn't count '88 as an event decided on the merits of the crew, though "It doesn't say in here that the boat needs to have one hull" was a clever answer to Fay's gambit. I actually think one of his more impressive performances was in 2000 as a manager, where he very nearly made the LVC final with an outspent, one-boat campaign. Barr and Vandy are worthy of consideration, but they won in an era without a challenger series and with the deck heavily stacked in favor of the defender (the challenger had to cross an ocean on her own bottom). Barr in particular, though, was ahead of his time as a professional sailor who dominated both inshore and offshore racing. For my money I'd have to go with Coutts. He got his first win off Conner, so he ticks the box of knocking off the previous standard-bearer, and went on to win two more times in a row, never beaten in a Cup Match. Prada in 2000 was no slouch and TNZ in 2003 was better than the record indicated (though they were snakebitten by gear failure). Coutts also won two of those cups as the challenger, and annihilated the challenger field both times. I think he's as close to a Mohammed Ali as the America's Cup has. He sure seemed invincible in his day.
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    Where are the responsible leaders?

    We ran all the responsible ones out of town in the name of "burn it all down and start over." Now we're seeing what happens when a hurricane hits after we burnt down the house but before we rebuilt it.
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    More Teams = Better Event (Usually)

    I don't think they have to. Look at the 52 Series. That's basically a dozen or so wealthy owners/syndicates paying pros to play with the toys they bought. Any of those teams making money? Almost certainly not, but the cost is more in line with the recreational budget of a grand prix boat owner, not the GDP of a small island nation.
  14. I always wonder what might have been if AmericaOne hadn't had all that gear failure or if S&S didn't lose a point in Ruddergate. Both were really well-sailed boats, though I don't know if either would have had better luck against TNZ with Coutts and Butterworth in their prime.
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    More Teams = Better Event (Usually)

    So for comparison, there are only three MLB teams with an annual payroll above $200M ( Ok, I get that's apples to kumquats ($200M is the cost of an entire 4 year challenge), but come on guys, this is a sailboat race. I read that Ranger cost about $500K to build in 1936. That's a shade over $9M today. I'm not trying to sound like a certain senator from Vermont, but lower costs are good for everybody. The same amount (or more) will still be spent, just by more teams employing more sailors and dock crew, and - in the quixotic chase for a viewership base outside us sailing nuts - drawing more fans. I know it's not just the cost of the boat, though it seems like foiling is really upping the ante on development costs.