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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. Oh well, in their airconditioned cocoon, the cops may not have been able to hear the screeching of tyres, or smell the smoke, from 50 metres away around the corner! Fuck, I thought they were supposed to have a permanent presence in Mitchell Street - someone gets the shit beaten out of them almost every night there! Dilligaff - sensitive much? Try getting outside more often.
  2. You call it commonsense - I call it redneck hillbilly fucktardness. You can keep the fuckwit. (I have no objection to him racing on a track, or doing burnouts at a race meeting - NOT on public streets)
  3. Do you know this street? I drive it every day. Mitchell Street is quite narrow - the only way to turn without a 3 pointer would be to drift it. 600hp, several ton truck, crowds around, plenty of drunks. Sorry, but if you think this is admirable, you're as much a fucking idiot as Gordon. As I said, my mates who are into motor racing (one has a race car, another an ex Rossi bike) don't stand up for him - why are you?
  4. Charged on the spot is my impression. The guy isn't very smart - the city police station and watch house is about 50 metres away from where he put on his show ... he's lucky they gave him bail. US cops would have shot him mid-donut!
  5. None of my motor racing mates have spoken up in his defence. Public street, not controlled AFAIK. Guy asks a private security bloke if it's OK WTF?. Of course the cops charged him - there'd be outrage if they didn't. The judge is a mate of mine - very sensible chap, keen sailor and not a killjoy. Gordon came across as a seppo blowhard, looks like that's what the Confederation of Australian Motor Sport thought too, it was them that pulled his licence to race in Australia, not any government. I'd say that's peer judgment.
  6. Hey, I often used to (pretty much retired these days), and the protest committee, and the appeals committee. But sorry, Saorsa, I don't get the meaning of your comment? Anyway, it doesn't matter. PA is so full of USA centric insider sniping that I'm not interested in engaging. As I said, I just pop in from time to time for insight into the (oops, maybe that's a sensitive topic)... The only time I post these days is when I'm pissed. But I'm still watching you ... Bye
  7. Hah! G'day mate. Sorry, PUI last night. Thursday night at the club. I know you too (but I won't out you), and you're smarter than the throw-away line I jumped on. I guess if you gave a more fullsome response it might make it easy for others to pick your ID. Anyway, hope all is well. Thanks for the kind words (I only wander into PA occasionally to try to fathom what the seppos think of their place in the world these days - it must be deeply embarrassing, eh) Cheers
  8. Oooh! A deeply thoughtful, considered response. Thanks for your contribution.
  9. Please tell me that didn't happen on the boat! Fuck - best wishes that it improves quickly ...
  10. We still use men on grinders.... Rugby pros are the go.... The penalty for power should be bigger imo Fucking Rugby nancyboys - we took half a dozen of them as grinders waay back in '76. Pfft - I could outgrind any of them, and I weighed 70kg then! One of 'em skinned a knuckle and had to be treated by the ship's doctor! Truly pathetic - and suggest they make their way forward to help bring the No 1 heavy back and they'd go wide eyed with fear. Maybe they were the reasons people went to diesels instead. Edit: S-H, not B-G, just to be clear.
  11. Thanks Jeff for the info about WT - I had it quite wrong. When I watched the intercept video, the thrust wakes from the motors appeared to have a circular component, and I was wondering if the motors counter-rotated (like twin engine boats). Is there anything to that, or does it just not matter? i.e. - engine No 1 spools up clockwise and No 2 anticlockwise (for a twin) and what config applies for a 4 engine B747 or A380? Or are they totally interchangeable and all spin the same direction? On the issue of chemtrails, I was given an interesting piece of info last year from a climatologist of world reknown. He said that the Earth warmed on 9/12 (the day after 9/11). Some opportunistic scientist had been pondering the reflectivity of jet contrails, and when all flights were grounded (in USA) on that day, they measured a tiny, but significant, increase in Earth temperature. This was because contrails are effective reflectors and bounce sunlight back out of the atmosphere. No contrails meant more heat reached the Earth. Fascinating stuff! I don't know if there was also an increase in crime because people didn't get their daily dose of meds though ...
  12. THIS. READ THIS AGAIN. THEN READ IT ONE MORE FUCKING TIME. TPG - them's pretty strong words. I don't live in the same country as you, but I'd appreciate it if you could point me to the statutory provision that forbids more information, so I can research it. State or Federal, doesn't matter which. Thanks (And I'll be happy to report back what I find, for the edification of us all).
  13. Can't link to it 'cos I'm at work, but a week or so ago a 2 engine heavy lost radio contact over Germany, and 2 German Air Force fighters were scrambled to intercept. The intercept was filmed from above and a couple of miles astern by a BA heavy tracking in the same direction. The footage clearly showed the incredible amount of energy in the wake of the lower plane. I thought of this Challenger incident, and with 4 wakes from a A380, I could imagine how turbulent the air must have been. Good work by the Challenger guys to put it on the ground, but what they went through is shown by the fact that the bizjet was written off on the spot! When did they go to 1000' vertical separation? That's BS. I thought it was 2000' vertical, 3 miles horizontal.
  14. Ha! Good one atoyot. My bath has a pvc drain, but I guess I can see WHK's explanation with old copper plumbing! (edit - sorry, and fd's). Interesting point about fresh water conductivity -v- salt water, must toss some salt in the bath before I try the experiments ...
  15. Yeah Rawhide, but I think to ensure electrocution, the old wiring would have to not include a RCD/ELCB, and not include a ground (2 pin plug only), and the bath would have to be earthed (fibreglass no good), and the person would have to be holding the live appliance and there would have to be another circumstance that connected the person to the live side of the appliance. I guess it's possible, but it's not exactly certain death ... But I notice that the deceased was a Thugby player, so lining up the holes in the swiss cheese of stupidity obviously came naturally.