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  1. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    and remember he mentioned something about charging his phone when he was about 2 weeks out of HI, when he supposedly has no engine/gen set/solar/etc, no more mention of that capability after that
  2. any experience/ideas for bareboat in the BVI?

    Been there, done that, loved it, here are some things that we found helped: Get the kids familiar with snorkeling before you go, like have them do a 1/2 hr lesson in a pool with a local scuba school so they can clear their ears, get hand signals, be comfortable with their face in the water while breathing Give them a one-use underwater camera or two (they're cheap) & dont pester them if they take lame photos or use them up Definitely fly into Beef Island, evening check in like mentioned above, you will still not get out of the harbor till after lunch the next day - island time 1st night go to Marina Cay, short hop from Road Town, easy moorings, nice little island w/ restaurant and beach and snorkeling for beginners. Traveling with kids is more exhausting for parents than you realize at first, so this helps settle in. Spend plenty of time in the Sound (days): check out Prickly Pear, BEYC, Saba Rock. Sign up for BEYC snorkeling trip, they will go just north of Saba and there are (or were) some "pirate" cannons on the sea floor in about 15' of water that kids love, take the ferry from BEYC or Saba Rock over to Leverick and get a cab to the Baths, walk down and have fun there, eat at the top of the hill and get a cab back, its the best way to see the Baths (theres a rock outcropping on the path down to the beach that looks like a skull) Anegada is cool but if you are pressed for time (like your trip is a week instead of 2) its not a big deal for kids, great lobster bbqs adults love and amazing beaches Norman Island in the bight has lots of moorings, a restaurant on the beach, good beach for kids, there's "pirate" cave around to the west you can dinghy to from your mooring, tie up to the dinghy line and kayak or snorkel into - Treasure Island was based on this place (alledgedly) Kids and adults eat more than usual when constantly on a boat, so when you go ashore to hang out at a beach, order something like mac & cheese from the beach restaurant as soon as you get there, it'll take awhile like everything does on island time, and put it in front of the kids when they run by, it'll cut way down on grumpy kids which lead to grumpy adults Dont make a hard and fast schedule, more like guidelines. Nothing happens quickly there, including service/food/etc. Also, it'll probably be alittle stormy at some time during your trip for a day or two, good time to hang out at the Sound or Norman Is bight Try to get where youre going by about 1 or 2, then relax/snorkle etc The tidal range is only about a foot, so the beach restaurants have tables in the sand close to the water, kids play in water, adults enjoy Pain Killers and cheeseburgers, what a life
  3. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    That long skinny bay to the west of the last reported position (Natewa Bay) combined with a 4 1/2' tidal range would create a huge ebb and flood tide, probably on the order of 2 - 3 knots. When the tide changes, the new reverse flow starts at the sides. 2 ebbs and 2 floods per day, every 6 hours it changes. If he was being washed toward the reef for the 4(?) previous hours he could easily have had his direction changed for him by the change in tide without benefit of tiller or eptitude
  4. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    Towboat? Who knows Stuck on a reef? Who knows Turned off his tracker and cant be located by Jean? Weird A flurry of activity today and now quieting down, I guess none of us is any smarter than when we started out the day, but its been entertaining. Given his prior ability to pop up in unexpected places, I still hold he will drift past the entrance to SavuSavu at first light tomorrow - as unbelievable as everything else that's happened so far!
  5. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    Hang on, I'm going to get out my dog-eared, 1972 edition of one of my favorite books as a kid, none other than Dove by Robin Lee Graham (a true mariner, solo 16 year old navigating with a sextant) to see what he had to say about Fiji
  6. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    Well I never looked very closely at Fiji, this is a learning experience. Amazingly sparsely populated on the eastern reaches of Vanua Levu, so it would do him no good to float into the neck of that long skinny bay. Really only Suvasuva would be advised, that looks like its about 90 miles from his last ping and through a 4 mile wide cut. Ignoring the improbability of it happening (as improbable as everything else to date) what is that, maybe 60 hours? I have a better question: What am I doing following this?
  7. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    Are those not reefs in his (apparent) wake? Whats going on here? No one is this lucky, gotta be some sort of ability to choose the course he makes good...
  8. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    I thought I might order a Namboutini on the rocks, but in due course, discretion being the better part of valor, decided on a Namboutini on the beach
  9. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    Ah man this is a funny thread, whew, there is alot of comedic talent on these forums! Its so entertaining & I really needed a laugh, thank you guys, BUT when it comes to the subject of all this, I feel like the guy getting hustled, suspicious that he's getting hustled, staring right at the game trying to see if its obvious, and still hanging in there, Is Rimas really at sea? So many contradictions, the varying degrees of grammar, etc but most of all, HOW IS HE SAILING SO FAST (relatively) and apparently reaching? And sailing what looks like a logical course? I'm rubbing my eyes but I cant see the con
  10. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    Sounds like shangrila for Rimas
  11. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    confused, me not understand, he took a video with his Ipad? how is he charging that?
  12. Randon questions come to mind to ponder: Who took along the personal locator beacon? Was it unbeknownst to the skipper? Was it activated by an individual worry or by command of the skipper? How could they only be where they were after 7 or so days? Between current and windage they probably made 2 knots. Could it be that they were farther out and were making their way back in, maybe due to concerns over seaworthiness/seamanship/navigating/lack of headway? Hope we hear from the participants