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  1. Laser Performance?

    I did the masters event in Jensen beach. This class is so far from dead.... With a few phone calls you can find class parts, (not really from APS though and not sure why, but been that way for over a year now) West Coast sailing always seems to have what you need. Sturgis is pretty good too. The new solid white boats are sweet. There were several at the event. Sailing older boats can still be competitive. I'm in a 2001 hull and do very well in our district, (prior to the 2001 boat I sailed a '98 and a '99 hull for several years with no issues). The event in FL was a bit of an eye opener for me, but my speed issue had nothing to do with my boat... There's over 210,000 boats out there. That doesn't just evaporate. I'll keep my $3,000.00 package. Not ready to spend $10k on a single hander when I can buy a nice J24 for the same price.
  2. Check Your BoatUS Policy.

    You should also check the Tow policy. Yes, they will come get you if you are just a Boat US member. However, if a member who has paid the extra tow insurance has a break down they will ditch you in mid-tow to go help the higher paying member. Been there, got left on the hook in the ICW for 2 hrs hoping the guy would come back. When he finally made it back he refused to tow us all the way home and ditched us again at the first marina we came to, (we were not being drunk assholes either. Just a family outing with the grandparents and 2yr old on board). The next day we went to get the boat only to run into it being towed the rest of the way back early that morning, (which they were planning on charging us another $300.00 for). The guy would not let us have the boat until I told him he had not been contracted for this as we'd signed off on and paid for the tow the night before. Since they had not been asked to tow the boat further he had basically stolen out boat and I was calling the cops. Total nightmare. In those situations it doesn't matter who you know at Boat US because all the tow operators are individual franchises..
  3. Huh? New Sunfish Class?

    For most Laser parts I'm finding that with some extra effort you can usually, (but not always) find what you're looking for. It takes a bit of internet shopping time and then phone calls to make sure the supplier actually has the part that says "in stock" on their website. However, I'm finding things. Also, the used market is good for those looking for class legal upgrades. Price of entry for a decent used Laser is around $2,500.00. I found mine for $ 1700.00 a year ago. A cherry 2001 model with trailex trailer. It was all classic rigged so I swapped my upgraded rigging, boat covers and dolly off my 1998 model and then sold the 1998 boat for $1000.00, (in a matter of days). I agree it's a mess, but with more effort and patience than something like this should take you can get in the game and stay in the game.
  4. Huh? New Sunfish Class?

    Whatever the case it appears there will be 2 meetings on January 8th. Nothing much to discuss until that meeting is done.
  5. Huh? New Sunfish Class?

    Why don't you post it here? Clearly you have a copy.
  6. Huh? New Sunfish Class?

    Isn't this all over now that The World Sailing Council has sided with ISCA on the issue and will not recognize any other organization as the "sunfish class organization"?
  7. S2 7.9

    Yes the boat is tender. As with most posts if you're single handing stick with a small jib and get reef points in the main. I believe class rules allow 1,100 lbs of crew weight and if you look at some crew pics you'll see some big guys in them or smaller 6 person crews. As with most boats flat is fast. It is an upwind machine. DW it likes lower angles with the board up at least half way, but don't take it up more than 3/4 or you'll loose directional stability. Great boats.
  8. Huh? New Sunfish Class?

    My understanding is this is a North American issue with LP holding back parts/boats. I heard the US Olympic team purchased 4 containers full of Lasers and related gear directly from LP. The initial shipment was outside the US. The only new boats showing up in the US are event charters that do get sold off post event, but those are the ONLY new boats making it into public hands in the US as of now. I have a source that tells me Seldon has loads of mast sections and parts in Charleston ready to ship to any US dealers placing orders. They are saying there's no issues between them and LP that would slow down or impede their business.
  9. Huh? New Sunfish Class?

    The Sunfish class members move has all of us ILCA members buzzing this morning! We're circling the wagons in the SE and have fired off e-mails to Andy Roy, (as I'm sure many others have). The Laser is a bit of a different animal with the Olympic class designation though. I'm excited about this and as a District we're ready to follow what the Sunfish Class has done. We've got the winter to get this sorted out, but on a local level we're already playing with aftermarket gear and working to get more boats on the water. Could LP get "starved out" if everyone turned their backs on the class designated suppliers of the razor blades, (sails, cleats, mast sections, other parts)? If they did would they sell off the builder rights or just sit on it and stop building the boats altogether? This will be interesting. The timing is great with the world sailing meeting currently happening in Mexico!
  10. what is it?

    New little Beneteau?
  11. caption contest

    This girl could use a day and the nail and wax spa.
  12. Ramming Speed! Tall Ship Docking Adventures

    Dropping those anchors takes a bit of work and time, (typically there's only 1 primary that would have held it IF the water wasn't too deep for it to catch) and they'd need room for it to catch and the boat would have still swung with the breeze meaning the lady in pink was screwed no matter what she did, (great Jersey scream by the way, ugg! bet she doesn't even know where the ignition switch is...). Having sailed on one of those boats I've experienced the mostly manual processes from back in the day that we all take for granted today. Nothing happens fast and/or requires less than 4 people to do.. There was no margin for error in that situation...
  13. Out of Control Laser

    3 out of 5 isn't bad. We race WL courses in the Southeast. Are you guys doing Olympic courses? Just wondering where your reach legs come in other than an offset mark after the weather mark or an offset finish after the final leeward mark.
  14. Update. Local dealer bitched to LP and they sent a new class legal MKII sail. No charge and it took them less than a month to get it done. Maybe there's hope....?
  15. Out of Control Laser

    A couple of things going on here: 1)- Hike harder. Maybe you were giving it all you could, but flatter would have been better. clearly over powered. 2)- You're sitting in the back of the boat likely trying to keep the bow up, but weight in back makes the boat want to round up so you're fighting the tiller right off from there. 3)- A little vang ease, (not much) might help. 4)- Looks to me like your boom hit the water. Once that happens the main can't go out any and there's no recovery. 5)- When racing on a Laser course we very rarely have a leg with reaching unless it's a short finish leg after the final leeward mark rounding. Ease the sheet way out if you are that over powered until you have luff in the front 5/10% of the sail. Sailing upright at all is way faster than upside down.