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  1. Slightly Obscure But Very Helpful

    Hey slug, your dogma chased your karma away ... lighten up ... get a life ... anchor is shallower water on less scope, too.
  2. New Autopilot Choice

    Turn up the gain and turn down the damping
  3. what is it?

    Big boat square top main rigs are usually done with runners and deflectors, no backstay. For hydraulic runners & sheets, ram length depends on how much play you need. A 2m ram is a 2m long cylinder. You'd be surprised how close they come to double in length when extended.
  4. what is it?

  5. Sailing Characteristics - Hallberg Rassy 41

    These and the Amel are shit cruising boats. If you feel that cruising requires windshields, center cockpits, big tanks and massive anchoring gear and davits, then you should ditch the masts and sails and get yourself a power boat.
  6. what is it?

    1:4 hydraulic setups are pretty common. 2m throw and 8m runner adjustment. 100s of these in use on bigger boats.
  7. what is it?

    What does using a ram have to do with the shape? Lots of big boats designed for short handed cruising use long rams for runners, travelers and sheets.
  8. Sailing Characteristics - Hallberg Rassy 41

    Neither of those boats sails particularly well. With modern sail handling gear, a ketch make no sense at all. There are much better boats to be had.
  9. what is it?

    How do you ease the backstay with a fixed length cascade? Unless they did all that and added runner locks. It's pretty easy. If you look closely, that's no pad eye on deck. I'm guessing hydraulic ram under the cockpit. Traveler, too.
  10. Visiting glamour

    Wood, You wrote: $10 mill will get R/P to draw you a boat in the Upper League It Won't buy the Rigging for one Design fees are less than 10% of that number and you could replace the rigging 2-3 times for that, including masts
  11. How to build large format display

    Remember, except for certification, which is per product, those fees are per year.
  12. How to build large format display

    Womba, The problem with the OneNet undertaking is that people believe it is a multi-vendor protocol undertaking. It is not. It's a simple change of transport, which could be an addendum to the existing documentation. That simple addendum, managed by an open consortium wouldn't take more than a few weeks. Managed by a closed group of empire builders, it has evolved with arbitrary complexity and will take forever; by way of example, the USB 3 specification took far less time than OneNet has already taken with a consortium that's far larger, has backwards compatibility constraints, 10s of thousands of devices and perhaps two billion end-users. If you want to get into the root cause of the disaster that is the NMEA, start another thread and I'm all to happy to elaborate further. Alex & Joakim, 4800 baud point-to-point is frightfully difficult to compare to CAN communication; they're much different beasts. What's critical in both is that neither is sufficient for good wind or speed data transport and this is why these transducers are directly connected to a central processor on any sailing instrumentation system that's worth purchasing. With those requirements removed, either transport is suitable for 99% of most system requirements; each has its pros and cons. Claiming the NMEA0183 wiring is a nightmare is an equipment/installation statement, not a technology or topology statement. By nearly any measure, NMEA2000 wiring is a far bigger mess due to the pathetic choices of connector and cabling adopted by the NMEA. A well designed 0183 installation can always be smaller, lighter and tidier than the 2000 equivalent. That 0183 electricals are often problematic is due to non-compliance by many large vendors, who only have single-ended drivers rather than the double-end drivers required by the RS-422 standard upon which 0183 is based. It's worth realizing that CAN is essentially RS422 electricals with layered protocol. To say it's a technology improvement is to not understand its basics; the improvement comes only because the protocol standard is difficult to implement without using standard components and the standard components comply with the standard. If companies like Garmin would use standard 422 transceivers, most of the 0183 problems would disappear. NMEA0183 cannot be "easily" connected to a PC - it requires an RS422-to-USB cable or a RS422-to-RS232 adaptor if you use a PC with serial ports plus suitable software to display the messages. By comparison, to connect to a CAN bus one needs a CAN-to-USB cable plus suitable software to display messages. The software for both is public domain or free from multiple places. In both cases you must purchase an adaptor, install device drivers and find application software. They're equivalent if not identical by any measure. The CAN-to-USB cable is US$200, which is about 10x the cost of a 422-to-USB cable.
  13. How to build large format display

    OneNet has been dragging on for years, it should have taken weeks. The basics of enumeration and slug-and-slay interfaces were resolved in the 80s by Apple on NuBus platforms and plagiarized by the PCI committee, which released that standard in '93. There is nothing here that needs to be invented. If the NMEA was focused on customer demand, this would have been done as part of the original NMEA2000 standard. What's apparent is that the only focus of the NMEA are Preventing the proliferation of peripherals Furthering the exclusivity of the association If one compares it's approach to defending a useful standard to, for example, the USB or PCI communities, these things become instantly apparent. I mean, seriously, can you imagine a world in which a USB keyboard had the interoperability limitations of a wind wand, speedo or depth transducer?
  14. How to build large format display

    Not sure to what you refer when you say GATT? My only understanding of that acronym is General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade. Among the many issues with the NMEA's naiveté is that there is zero support in the standard for configuration, calibration and status. For many sensors, this is 75% or more of the required message definition, which means that the NMEA standard does exactly nothing for much of the necessary communications and this problem gets worse as sensors get esoteric. The result is that by static count, most communications are proprietary messages and the only value of the NMEA is doling out the vendor IDs used to distinguish one vendor's proprietary messages from those of other vendors. The rest of their "value" is a simple scam by the membership to prevent others from competing on the wire - something they accomplish via exorbitant license fees associated with a closed standard protected by copyright. The technology base is CAN, developed in 1983 and then CAN 2.0B in 1991. The ISO standards for CAN networks were published in 1993. Everything about the physical interconnect and topology was "derived" (word-for-word) from DeviceNet standards, which are free. The arrogance of licensing message formats on 25 year-old technology and leveraging open standards is mind boggling if not downright unethical. Compare this to the approach taken with USB, Firewire and other multi-vendor committee-based standards and it's no wonder that those arerunning at a few gigabits per second and on their 3rd or 4th major generation in half the time that the NMEA has been dorking around with a CAN-based standard running at 0.00025 gigabits per second. It's just pathetic.
  15. How to build large format display

    To say the NMEA is working is something of a misnomer. To say they're working on sending CAN messages over IP exemplifies the problem. Sending CAN message over IP has had industry standard solutions for more than a decade. Defining a UDP-based layered approach would take a competent individual a few weeks and a functional committee perhaps a year. The NMEA has been going around on this for 5+.