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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. If you are going to be evaluating chance of winning the AC in such a way, it is probably important to note that Oracle is automatically in the final. We all know that luck can be a factor in any sailing regatta so the likelihood of all challengers is reduced due to their need to win more than the one regatta to win the AC. Obviously we all know this, and it is not pointing out anything new, but Oracle effectively start with a +1. So perhaps for them 1+1+1+1 does, in fact, equal 5...
  2. Nope not had a discount on a boat for being supportive. I think this particular aspect has run its course now. Peter has clarified his position. If Dan see's fit he will also clarify his position. I am still hopeful of a go in an Aero but until I find someone close enough to me who is willing the let me have a go that is unlikely to happen. I am sure RS would not be keen to let me take up a demo slot. Would it not, in the spirit of declaring interest, be a good idea to declare your own interest in the D-Zero Class, Jeffers? Why? I am a class volunteer, I get no renumeration for what I do and not do I ask for any or expect any. Plus my posts here, and on any other forum/social media are my own opinion and not necessarily that of the class. That is the luxury of not getting paid, I can call a spade a spade if I see fit. Paid or otherwise, I can't see any post within this thread where you state you have a position in the class over an above merely being an owner (before this exchange). Maybe I am putting 2 and 2 together and getting five, but based on your name, I presume this is you listed on the class' website as responsible for their 'publicity'. It seems a little rich to call others out for their affiliation when you are the only person officially listed as being responsible for the class publicity – paid or otherwise. Unless I am mistaken and that is not you in which case I apologise. On the boats in question, I would think (as many have stated) the best class to race is the one that you can race against in your local area.
  3. Apologies, I meant to quote just the one comment, obviously ballsed that up...
  4. Nope not had a discount on a boat for being supportive. I think this particular aspect has run its course now. Peter has clarified his position. If Dan see's fit he will also clarify his position. I am still hopeful of a go in an Aero but until I find someone close enough to me who is willing the let me have a go that is unlikely to happen. I am sure RS would not be keen to let me take up a demo slot. Would it not, in the spirit of declaring interest, be a good idea to declare your own interest in the D-Zero Class, Jeffers?
  5. Whilst being within a percentage of the French national team's best time is a bit of a joke, to some (though I know English instructors in France who are positive about the concept) having a second language is also a necessary requirement to pass the test...
  6. Nice, Good points. HOWEVER, I would say that the blurbs about the event that have been posted on the FP are reasonably considered editorials, and not journalism. They are the opinions of the editors/owners of SA. And as such, given the "anarchy" label of this site, are absolutely open to criticism. In my opinion, I find it odd that people are not voicing annoyance with those of us who are voicing criticism of the editorials. Fair point.
  7. Have spent many years reading these forums and rarely feel compelled to post. In a public forum such as this my expectation is to get occasionally insightful commentary on current events watered down by a whole heap of crap. I am sure I am not alone in stating that most of the time I find filtering all this worth it for the great content that comes to the fore. I almost never read anything on the front page, as is the case for many I know. As staid and off the pace as print journalism is, it's generally like that for a reason. Personally I like to read magazines because they are written by people who have done their time learning the ins and outs of what is publishable and interesting and what is simply not. Additionally, monthly sailing rags are not really constrained by the 'breaking news' concept anymore, and as such are afforded time to consider and research their pieces. With this in mind, the concept of sailing 'anarchy' is admirable as a reaction to all the inherent flaws that come with this process. News is not fast enough in this modern day and there does need to be an outlet that provides fast and dirty, instant reaction. That is what you all do here so well and long may it live. However, to view SA as anything other than an unconfirmed, unconsidered source of instantaneous news is, I tentatively say, foolish. I view the front page as a forum given more prominence than any other with a limited number of posters. Look at Clean's ETNZ video saga, that shit is not journalism MM delivers more and on a regular basis than either he or Scott do. What works well here are the people spread throughout the world making valuable, informed posts, not two people hamfistedly banging at a keyboard and hitting the 'front page' button. As wrong as their coverage has been I am no more offended by it than PH or TC's flagrant jingoism simply because I view the pair of them in the same light, I don't think I know anyone that takes anything on the FP of anarchy seriously. I hope this place stays around for a long time because it really is invaluable but only because of you lot.
  8. Wooooo: https://twitter.com/ArtemisRacing/status/332530433646526464/photo/1 "soon she will fly"